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Old 07-04-08, 04:37
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Default Gronlid, Saskatchewan - CMPs?

For any of the Prairie rebuilders, I have a 2003 telephone number and info on some "old military trucks" owned by Mike, at the Gronlid Seed Plant (306) 277-2004. Info through a friend of a relative of mine. I had the email filed in the proverbial safe place, ie next to Elvis' unlisted phone number and my unredeemed 2005 multimillion dollar winning lottery ticket.

I THINK these are the same vehicle and the one the fellow had beside the highway. Emphasis on the speculation.

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Old 07-04-08, 05:19
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That one got sold and is in Manitoba now. He had some others but most of them are gone. I have a couple of them. He's likely got a few left.
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Old 07-04-08, 05:20
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I believe that is the HUP now owned in Winnipeg by CMP Perry.
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That's the one all right. Here's some he had in 2003. I ended up getting the left F15A and the box for the blue one from his brother near Regina. I traded that 2C1 box in Swift Current for my 2B1 box. The third one is a C30 and might still be there.
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Old 07-04-08, 07:54
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As I recall from looking at photos when it was for sale a few years ago that this HUP (C8A) is the rare 1945 staff car version made in 1945 for the British. This had the sliding side windows of glass, exterior door handles and different large roof hatch.



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Old 07-04-08, 15:34
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For any of the Prairie rebuilders, I have a 2003 telephone number and info on some "old military trucks" owned by Mike, at the Gronlid Seed Plant (306) 277-2004. Info through a friend of a relative of mine. I had the email filed in the proverbial safe place, ie next to Elvis' unlisted phone number and my unredeemed 2005 multimillion dollar winning lottery ticket.

I THINK these are the same vehicle and the one the fellow had beside the highway. Emphasis on the speculation.
The one element of the post that is clear, is the where. The what I can't be certain of. Almost every Westerner knows someone who has 'old army trucks'.

From reading the Properties on the jpegs, the images were created in Jan 04, but there is no author or camera information included. These may have been stripped when the image was posted or modified. I've added one of a data plate for a C8A (SN6407) Aug 27/45.

If Cletrac or one of the others has better information, we should rely on him.
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Old 07-04-08, 18:47
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The data plate is not the easiest to read in the photo.

The serial number (VIN) of the vehicle appears to be 4844521304.

The "SM6407" (SM not SN) is the British Army contract number. Supply Mechanization 6407.

I have a copy of a 1944 Census numbers list from Chilwell in UK (via John Marchant about 30 years ago) listing ALL British WWII WD number ranges to that date but as the list was poublished in Nov 1944, it does not show the 1945 contracts.

This truck probably was never delivered to the British. One turned up in Czechoslovakia (pictured in the now defunct Wheels and Tracks magazine years ago). My friend, the late Peter J. Ford of Saskatoon SK, found a rear door and some other parts for one of these C8A HUP staff cars in Manitoba (from a vehicle that had been hit by a train as I recall?) and those went to the restoration of another such vehcle in Canada.

These HUPs probably came out of the CMP stocks held post-war at MacDonald in Manitoba.



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Old 08-04-08, 16:30
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The data plate is not the easiest to read in the photo
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These HUPs probably came out of the CMP stocks held post-war at MacDonald in Manitoba.



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You mean I can go to any MacDonald's in Manitoba and order a Big Mac, large fries and a side order of HUP? Cool!!

'Will that be take out or tow away?'

I zoomed in on the original photo, and it looks like:

C-8A
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4844521304
FR 4052457
SM 6407
AUG. 27/45
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Old 08-04-08, 17:46
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Here's a pic of the data plate that's easy to read.
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1945 CHEVROLET C8A HUP
Project vehicle, Canadian Military pattern. Rare PERS-3 “Staff Car” version. Restoration 75% done, less cabin interior, most parts in hand. Asking; $5,000 CDN. Inquiries to:
PO Box 468, Austin, MB, Canada R0H 0C0. 9/13-26
No pics. Anyone of you westerners know this truck?
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Old 11-09-13, 04:08
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We have seen that one on this website before. It used to be in Saskatchewan, and made the move to Winnipeg, then later off to a little ghost town South of Austin. I zipped out tonight to have a look at it, liked what I saw, and bought it. I should have it in the shed sometime in the next few weeks.
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That would be this one that came from Gronlid (or something like that) near Melfort, Sask
I liked how they flipped the floor treadplate over when they welded it in so they could put linoleum down on a flat surface. Posh, eh?
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Old 11-09-13, 05:11
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One in the same. Mark did a lot of work to it, and has a lot of NOS parts to go with it. I need another project like I need a hole in the head, but it's in the neighborhood, and I always wanted a HUP. Added bonus is that it, being a Chev, should be a useful tool to keep the dust down in the quonset (ie: oil leaks).
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Old 11-09-13, 05:39
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That's not another late 1945 British Contract 1C11 by any chance is it, Rob???


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Old 11-09-13, 06:19
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We have seen that one on this website before. It used to be in Saskatchewan, and made the move to Winnipeg, then later off to a little ghost town South of Austin. I zipped out tonight to have a look at it, liked what I saw, and bought it. I should have it in the shed sometime in the next few weeks.
Rob, congrats! Sounds like a great buy.

(Threads merged to keep track of this particular HUP.)

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Old 11-09-13, 10:49
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Well done Rob!

Looking forward for some pics as soon as you get it home!
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Old 13-09-13, 12:16
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For any of the Prairie rebuilders, I have a 2003 telephone number and info on some "old military trucks" owned by Mike, at the Gronlid Seed Plant (306) 277-2004. Info through a friend of a relative of mine. I had the email filed in the proverbial safe place, ie next to Elvis' unlisted phone number and my unredeemed 2005 multimillion dollar winning lottery ticket.

I THINK these are the same vehicle and the one the fellow had beside the highway. Emphasis on the speculation.
That yellow HUP was owned,and may still be owned by Micky Zwack...Micky's Daughter,I think her name was Michelle,was a city policewoman in Prince Albert back about '86-'88+++..it was painted yellow with black tiger stripes possibly..Michell used to drive it around as her daily driver.I only met her once or twice but she was very pretty and had a HUP and carried a gun..and If you messed around with her she would put you in jail or shoot you..or Micky would...
anyway I left P.A.in the summer of '88 and Michelle was still a cop and driving her HUP but don't know what happened after that..
I believe this is the same one..Maybe some one could correct me or the story..
But Micky was from the Gronlid-Melfort area so the "Mike" fits..
Micky Zwack..got tons of CMPs , carriers ..and he know what they are worth.

There are two M Zwack's is Sask. both in Prince Albert look them up on 411 locate and one will be Micky or will know him..
I don't want to post phone numbers or addresses here.


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Old 13-09-13, 13:28
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I have known Mickey for years, although we have not talked in a while. I have always known Mickey as being from Prince Albert. He is retired military, a farmer and has a job at the paper/pulp plant up there. Mickey is really one of the good guys in the hobby, but does not use the internet much so we do not see him on this site. I'll have to ask him if there is a connection between him and this vehicle, but at this time I don't think so.

I am busy this weekend, do most likely I'll get the truck some next week. Photos to follow.
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Old 13-09-13, 17:49
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I just checked my copy of the 1989 issue of INFOX by Peter Ford. Peter knew Mickey well, and this HUP does not show up in the INFOEX record. Peter did find a complete 1C11 HUP from the same British Contract as mine in the Melfort area in the late 1980's but the owner was not too friendly and Peter was unable to get a close look at it. He also found the train wreck HUP and got parts from it. The front end was a complete right off. Everything gone from the seats forward.

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That was Mike Heiberg who owned the HUP when it was in Gronlid. He ran the seed cleaning plant in town. Most of those CMPs ended up at his brother Ken's east of Regina and I ended up with several of them.
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Old 18-09-13, 05:47
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Well I got the HUP home about an hour ago, along with a dozen or so boxes of parts...some NOS and some take-off. Photos will have to wait until at least tomorrow night I am afraid.
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As promised, here are some photos of the HUP before coming off the trailer. It leaked out a bunch of it's transfer case oil (it is a chev after all...it has to leak), and it's currently stuck in gear, but those are minor problems. As you can see in some of the photos, some tidying up of the body will still need to be done, but overall Mark has done a good job cleaning it up. All new glass and channels, wiring harnesses, brakes....just needs some TLC and assembly.
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The 5/4 ton was used to pull it down, and bring it into the quonset for the winter. What is not shown are the dozen or so boxes of parts, some used and some NOS. Goodies like NOS overflow tank, muffler, lights, and mirrors, and plenty more. The truck is currently on ferret tires, but these will soon be exchanged for a set of the STA 10:50X16 that I have saved up in the shed. I didn't even have a project for them...I just bought them cause I knew someday........
In fact, I have been hoarding an original HUP parts manual for the last 31 years, also because I knew one day I would have one of these. Then again, I have been hoarding dozens if not hundreds of manuals.....I won't live long enough to have them all. But I really did want a HUP.
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Rob, you've got a nice unit there. It looks even better than when I last saw it at Gronlid!
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I was lucky enough to have picked up this 1941 C15A from Mike in 2006, was very complete and very nice condition, had been stored for years indoors only minor rust. I had tried to buy the HUP but by the time I finally made up my mind to buy it had already been sold.
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Lucky find. Now that I am close enough to Gronlid...(and actually have been past there a few times before I read this post) Too bad I am slow on the take. Good catch Rob!. If you need anything from that area, let me know before I move back to Manitoba. I better call Mickey before i move in case he has parts for me...
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