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Old 17-09-14, 05:00
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Seems to me there was something like that in the same pile of stuff where you got that gun. In fact I sandblasted it and was puzzled why there was no rifling in what I thought was the barrel Years later I realise it was the sleeve.

Anyway, it is sitting in Westbourne in front of the old store/pool hall. I may be through there tomorrow, so I'll check it out then and compare what's there with the 17 pdr on the base here.
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Old 18-09-14, 03:09
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Had a look at it today Rob and it is not for the 17 pdr. In fact I still have no idea what it is for. Here are a couple of shots of it.

Sorry to get your hopes up.
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Old 18-09-14, 11:46
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Default Thanks for the effort Rob...

I still think that there might be a small piece of the big 17 sitting in some obscure pile of salvage. But you know the yard better than anyone, and this was close but no cigar. Cheers Rob
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Old 19-09-14, 22:36
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Default A big week for the 17... Thanks for the help.

A big thanks to everyone over the the 30th Field Museum in Ottawa. Cheers Rob
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Old 20-09-14, 00:17
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That bit closer Rob, a good find indeed !

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Old 20-09-14, 01:00
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Default Thanks Rob...

You most certainly have been part of this restoration. Cheers and keep that Scottish whiskey flowing. Rob
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Old 02-10-14, 01:44
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Default Yes... a APCBC projectile...

has finally showed up, minus the ballistic cap. Thank you Rob Love for this lead. Looking forward to the repaint and script restoration on this little gem. Notice double band. Cheers Rob
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Old 02-10-14, 05:17
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has finally showed up, minus the ballistic cap. Thank you Rob Love for this lead. Looking forward to the repaint and script restoration on this little gem. Notice double band. Cheers Rob
How do you know if it is inert or a dud? I would hate to be responsible for finding you something that caused harm in the end.
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Old 02-10-14, 08:22
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Default It is marked...

inert, etched into the one of the bands.
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Old 02-10-14, 09:44
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This round has an unusual profile compared with others I have seen, is there any stampings on it to give you a clue as to where it was made ?
Attached is a pic of an APC and an APCBC round with the pointed end as a comparison .



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Old 03-10-14, 01:33
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Default Hi Rob

There are some very faint markings on the underside of the projectile, nothing I can make out. Although the different nose cap is solid and of heavy steel construction, I think it is an add on because of the absence of the ballistic cap? No welds present on that location, and I have not tried to pop it off. It is pretty solid. The only discernible markings are on the band...marked SHC 056 inert. I spent a little time today making the round look presentable, the old lettraset decals are already falling off. A winter project to get it up to snuff. Was the ballistic cap something that could be pried off? Cheers Rob
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Old 03-10-14, 02:21
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That cap had me wondering what the round was. But in a google search I did find an image that showed a cutaway with that cap underneath the nose cone. I would suggest it is proper, but no nose cone.

In the Canadian military, SHC used to mean stock holding code, but the number 56 is not one I am familiar with. However, I did not deal with ordnance. The SHCs were dropped about a dozen years back. Not sure if I could find any reference to them these days. Back then, 10 meant serviceable, I think 90 was unserviceable, 80 was quarantined...but even that last one I can't guarantee anymore.

So much UFI, so little storage space.
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Old 03-10-14, 14:05
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I have had a better look at a couple of my APCBC rounds and you are quite right ,it would seem the tin nose is missing.
They are only crimped on so I should think it wouldn't take much to knock one off !

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Old 05-10-14, 18:48
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Default Artillery tools wanted..

Any of you guys here in Canada have any of the 17/25 pdr. tools collecting dust that you would like to move on? All should have the OS/CM scripted numbers. Keys for No. 9 dial sight/keys/ drifts/cover muzzle/cover breech/ lamps/ etc... Looking to fill the 17 pdr. tools roll. Thanks Rob
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Old 05-10-14, 19:17
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I have a spare of the handspike 7ft mk2 (pn E3/EC0551) and some spares of the quick release tool for when doing drawbacks of the recoil mech. Neither will fit in your pouches, but I believe both are applicable to the 17 pdr as they were pretty standard amongst most of the Brit artillery, and are still in use today in the CF.
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Old 08-10-14, 19:18
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Default 17/25 pounder box on Ebay

See pic of tool list...looking for locally if possible...Cheers Rob
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/261619909095?...84.m1423.l2649
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Old 09-10-14, 01:56
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Default Sold/buy it now...

this one wasn't up here more than a couple of hours . Cheers Rob
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Old 09-10-14, 09:36
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Its all getting harder to find these days and increasing in value as a result !


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Old 09-10-14, 09:41
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Default 17 pdr Smoke

Ah.............. forgot to add this in the last post ,Attached is a pic of my 17 pdr Smoke Round which is Quite a hard one to find unfortunately this has fired Drive bands but even still a rare round.


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Old 19-10-14, 21:41
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Default 17 pounder manuals/handbooks on EBAY

Don't know if I will be able to afford these...sure would be nice to have. Never seen these before. Watching closely. Cheers Rob Fast
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/201197470253?...84.m1423.l2649
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Old 23-10-14, 20:57
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I wonder who got them...... went for quite a price!
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Old 24-10-14, 00:42
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Default I bid on them...

But very soon out of my price range. If someone here on MLU was the buyer, I sure would appreciate a copy of originals if possible. Nice to see originals none the less. Cheers Rob
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/201197470253?...84.m1423.l2649
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Old 24-10-14, 09:11
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Rob

You could try emailing the seller - tell them you have a 17pdr and are looking for photocopies/scans of the manual, but didnt see the auction in time - ask them if they will forward your email address for the buyer to contact you. I've done this before and found I get a 50/50 response success rate from the buyer.

Given the price they went for, fair chance the buyer will be happy to sell you scans to recover some of their cost.

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Old 24-10-14, 09:44
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But very soon out of my price range. If someone here on MLU was the buyer, I sure would appreciate a copy of originals if possible. Nice to see originals none the less. Cheers Rob
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/201197470253?...84.m1423.l2649
Rob ,

I recommend that you check this website out, Rob van meel http://www.robvanmeel.nl/?q=catalog/340 reproduces manuals to a very good standard and has some 17 pdr copies available.
I can certainly vouch for the Illustrated parts list as I have one here.
If you have no joy direct let me know and I will get one for you.

This group of 17 pdr manuals I think were about right with value, the Handbook and maintenance manual are worth around £75 each and the drill book £20 ,the pamphlet £10.

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Old 27-10-14, 01:06
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Default Prairie Command fall B-B-Q 2014

Had a great day, good food, and great people. See pics of the club members and some nice vehicles. Congratulations to long time P.C. member Derk Derin on his engagement this weekend, we all wish him all the best.
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Old 27-10-14, 01:09
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Old 27-10-14, 01:14
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Default Thanks Rob for this quick release..

Nice, wartime dated.
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Old 27-10-14, 10:39
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Part of the pull back apparatus !

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Old 27-10-14, 18:58
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Thank you, Rob, for the great food and hospitality yesterday. Very much appreciated.

Get this week at work behind you now and you can start to relax with the '17'!

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Old 28-10-14, 12:45
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Thanks for the pic of the pull apparatus Rob Nixon, never seen one before. Common piece over there? Cheers Rob
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