camouflage scheme on Fox armoured car

[Stefan Leegwater]

Hi all,

A question about camoflage; our FOX got markings from the Italy period, and painted olive drab.
Will it be correct to have some kind of camoflage on it?
And what kind of pattern will that be, any ideas would be greatly apreciated!!!

Cheers,

Stefan Leegwater

[Brian Gough]

Hi Stefan,

Nice photo. Where and when was it taken?

Brian

[Stefan Leegwater]

Hi Brian,

It was taken at september 17th, Den Haag area, in preparation of making the movie "zwartboek" (blackbook)

Cheers,

Stefan

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Stefan Leegwater
A question about camoflage; our FOX got markings from the Italy period, and painted olive drab.
Will it be correct to have some kind of camoflage on it?
And what kind of pattern will that be, any ideas would be greatly apreciated!!!

Stefan, buy Mike Starmer's book on Sicily and Italy 1943-1945 camouflage. Mike knows everything there is to know about camouflage schemes.

But why not paint it like one of the Foxes in The Hague?

Cheers,
Hanno

[Stefan Leegwater]

Hi Hanno,

Will the Canadian camoflage be the same as the British camoflage?
If so I'll have to order these copies!

Cheers,

Stefan

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Stefan Leegwater
Will the Canadian camoflage be the same as the British camoflage?

Stefan,

As far as I know, yes.

Ask Mike Starmer, he'll be delighted to fill in the details for you.

Regards,
Hanno

[Stefan Leegwater]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra

But why not paint it like one of the foxes in the Hague?

Hanno, that is maybe a very interesting idea! So if I read the thread correctly will the markings be:
The Hague, 8 May 45 - they are possibly from the 4th Reconnaissance Regiment (4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards), C.A.C. (1st Cdn Inf Div - Recce Regt).

And did they use in that time camoflage?

I hope we can find some answers!

Cheers,

Stefan

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Stefan Leegwater
Hanno, that is maybe a very interesting idea! So if I read the thread correctly will the markings be:
The Hague, 8 May 45 - they are possibly from the 4th Reconnaissance Regiment (4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards), C.A.C. (1st Cdn Inf Div - Recce Regt).

And did they use in that time camoflage?

This is the info Mark Tonner came up with:

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner GM Foxes in N.West Europe
The Hague, 8 May 45 - they are possibly from the 4th Reconnaissance Regiment (4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards), C.A.C. (1st Cdn Inf Div - Recce Regt).

On the 8th, 3rd Canadian Infantry Brigade (R22eR; CYR; WNSR) entered The Hague, along with other elements of the 1st Cdn Inf Div.

If I were you I would dig into the local history of Den Haag to see if there is more information.

Looking at the picture, it doesn´t seem these Foxes were camouflaged:

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It would be great to see a restored Fox depicting a Fox in Holland!

Cheers,
Hanno

[Dirk Leegwater (RIP)]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra


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It would be great to see a restored Fox depicting a Fox in Holland!

Hallo Hanno, looking to the picture........where is the Fox crew ?
Maybe a stop for to drink a Heineken in the bar behind the Fox ?

Mvg. Dirk

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Dirk Leegwater
Hallo Hanno, looking to the picture........where is the Fox crew ?
Maybe a stop for to drink a Heineken in the bar behind the Fox ?

Hi Dirk, well spotted! I guess that is the easy part to reenact

H.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Dirk Leegwater
........where is the Fox crew ? Maybe a stop for to drink a Heineken in the bar behind the Fox ?

Dirk/Hanno;

Being a former Recce Patrolman myself, this Fox crew are doing an outstanding job by checking not only to make sure that said bar has plenty of beer on hand for the incoming troops, but also that its COLD... which usually takes one or two down range before making a decision...... .. and then one or two more, just to make sure.....

[Dirk Leegwater (RIP)]

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Hi Dirk, well spotted! I guess that is the easy part to reenact....

That's right Hanno,

The first change to make the Fox acceptable for driving the liberation parade's in Holland, is the moving of the "Italian" front-fender boxes.

The pictures showing us a nice view of orginal bins and POW cans. Next step...... the painting job.

Mvg. Dirk

[DITNER, S.M.]

Originally posted by Stefan Leegwater
It was taken at september 17th, Den Haag area, in preparation of making the movie "zwartboek" (blackbook)

Gentlemen:

I was looking at the photo of the restored "Fox" armoured car and had the strange sense that I had seen it before.

I am researching and writing a book on Sicily/Italy and more specifically a relative who was killed in action with 4 PLDG in Italy.

As such, I have a copy of the regiment's history by McGill.

The armoured car named "Bardia" is featured in a photo on page 131 of that book.

Thought this might be of interest

S.Ditner