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Old 21-05-14, 23:49
Maurice Donckers Maurice Donckers is offline
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I am after several years still on the lookout for a universal carrier starting handle cover , tried to copy one , but can`t find the right material .
Is there somebody out there who has a spare one ? I also have some exchange bits if somebody wants to swap.
thanks Maurice
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Old 22-05-14, 00:38
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Maurice do you want some measurements?
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Old 22-05-14, 20:57
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Hi Lynn, I got the measurements , but with the machinery I have got , I can`t make the inside thread .So maybe somebody has an original one .
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Old 01-06-14, 23:59
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Is this the part that on the end of the handle that goes on the long rod with four keyways ?
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Old 02-06-14, 08:24
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Hello,

Has anyone got a drawing of this cover? i'll have a go at making a few. Whats the "special material" maurice, are they made of gold like some other carrier parts i've come across.....

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Old 02-06-14, 13:05
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I will put up a sketch tomorrow evening.
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Old 02-06-14, 13:19
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Thank you Lynn
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Old 03-06-14, 04:22
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Ross I sent you a message I have made some for the guys and they look very original .
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Old 03-06-14, 05:58
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I can't get my picture to stick .but here is how to make the cover .Very simple .Take a pipe connector 1.5" Diameter .Get a 1" bolt and machine off the top of the head about 1/8" deep to fit in the connector . Then machine the bolt end so as to attach the chain on it . Stick it in the pipe connector and spot weld it then clean up the weld so it is smooth .I can send you detail pictures of this if you have Email . George
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Old 03-06-14, 12:23
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John and others.
As rough as it looks the details are there, if you want an accurate one.
John, i wouldn't mind getting one if you're planning a run of them. I'd like one without the hex machined onto it. Just plain round. I will be at W&P.

The Rotherham fitting is nothing to do with it.
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Old 03-06-14, 12:28
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Default Thanks Lynn.

Thanks for the details lynn. Just a couple of questions, is the thread 7 threads per inch? i guess it'll be a BSF form, so if it is 7tpi then it looks like 1 3/4 bsf thread. Is the cap made of steel or brass?

Will see what i can do before war and peace. I just need to find something to gauge the threads.

I have been told there is an hydraulic endcap that looks very similar.

John.

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Old 03-06-14, 12:40
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John, I think there is a total of 7 threads. It is cast steel. (to speed up manufacture and reduce material consumption, I guess)
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Old 03-06-14, 13:03
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I'll have a look at the cover on my carrier, should be able to workout the tpi, but it has had a few knocks over the years so is shaped like an egg!

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Old 03-06-14, 13:37
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Many are like that John, with not so many having the caps.
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Old 03-06-14, 13:41
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That'll make running a batch off interesting. But thats why i like engineering, better than any crossword......
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Old 03-06-14, 14:29
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Cutting internal threads on a lathe........ I think i'd do better at the crossword
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Old 03-06-14, 16:37
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I prefer the criptic ones, i'll be doing the thread on a milling machine
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Old 04-06-14, 00:14
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i am also missing the cap and would like to get hold of one but i always assumed it would be BSP thread ?

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Old 04-06-14, 00:24
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Lynn, if you are coming to war and peace bring your downpipe, we can do the exchange there?.
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Old 04-06-14, 08:36
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Default Bsp thread.

Hello Rick,

I thought you might need one, i'm also having a go at the plungers for the vision shutters, i think you needed them to?

Thanks for your input, its not BSP, from lynns drawing i think its about 14-15 tpi we're looking for and BSP is 11. BSF is 7 tpi, so i'm still not sure.

How round is the starting handle plate on your carrier rick?

John
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Old 04-06-14, 20:04
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it's in great condition although maybe a little bit of corrosion on the threads but if you need it give me a shout and i'll take it off for you.

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Old 04-06-14, 20:47
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I'll try and remember to bring a thread gauge home from work to confirm the pitch.

All I did was work out the diameter and machine the thread at the correct TPI a little at a time, trying the "nut" until I got a good fit. It'll be easy on a cnc mill, I was using an old fashioned Myford, winding it off and reversing before it bottoms out. Not something I want to do again

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Old 04-06-14, 21:38
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Standard pipe thread worked just fine for the Canadian carriers
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Old 05-06-14, 09:47
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nice one george. i had a feeling it was a standard thread and not some one of a kind. cheers

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Old 11-08-14, 11:56
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Getting there with the covers, just the flats to do.

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Old 11-08-14, 12:24
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Looking great John. You'll have to kick them around the car park once you're done, give them some patina
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Old 11-08-14, 20:26
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Hello Ben,

They do look a bit new, I'll try one in the rotor barrell and see how it comes out.

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Old 22-08-14, 14:28
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Hello,

Now finished the hex machined,

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Had a couple extra made, p.m. me for details.
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Old 22-08-14, 14:40
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Very nicely done!
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Old 22-08-14, 14:50
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I didn't forget you lynn..................


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