E-Bay Carrier just sold

Bruce Parker (RIP) · #1 28-11-08, 04:40

This carrier just sold on E-bay for $4,457.10 (Canadian), almost 40 bids and sniped up from $3,600 in the very last seconds. Located in Walkerton Ontario. If you're upset you missed it, there's another one from the same vendor on E-bay ending in a day or so. It's Mk 1 and while missing a lot of it's armour, unlike this first one it does have wheels, tracks, a motor and a transmission. (He is also listing a set of NOS tracks, still wound from the factory and said to have all 167 links. Now he's got my attention)

RichardT10829 · #2 28-11-08, 09:08

yeah i emailled this guy trying to see if he would split the armour from the hull initially he was up for it then folks started to bid. the tracks are original from factory still in their bundles sitting at circa $1000 on one of the pics you notice there is a third carrier in the backround must collect em i reckon. looks to be on some sort of farm i cant believe that one went for so much it is a right dog no tracks although lots of bits which are probably hard to come by. i have them all in my ebay at the moment

Ledsel · #3 29-11-08, 01:43

If they were from the factory they would be in sections of 21 links ? I'm not sure but something like that. I think they are off that carrier. Just sold that way to get a better dollar.

Bruce Parker (RIP) · #4 29-11-08, 02:56

...this Mk.1 went for $6,909.28 (Canadian) after 41 bids. The tracks are at $2,487 (CDN) with a day to go. I this just a case of crazy E-bay bidders? It's two for two now.

Jordan Baker · #5 29-11-08, 04:18

Its hard to say about the bundle of tracks and if they were like that out of the factory. They can't be the easiest to move around like that.

As for the price of the Carriers, personaly they are nuts paying that much for so little. Mine was a fair amount of money ($2000) but these are stupid amounts that they are going for on ebay. To me this is just a case of people not looking around enough and being dumb with ebay and getting carried away with an auction. Its easy to do as ive been there but not to that amount.

Bruce Parker (RIP) · #6 29-11-08, 04:49

I don't know about you Jordan, but I went out to the garage tonight and gave my carrier a little pet on the fender. Might change the oil tomorrow.

RichardT10829 · #7 29-11-08, 10:38

$2000 for yours was a bargain Jordan !!! I would pay that any day... keep a hold of these things guys i feel a sense of responsiblity to save as many of these things as i can, one at a time of course

save them going to the chop shop or farmers wanting them for work horses cutting them up. (this is not a personal attack on farmers though)

rob love · #8 29-11-08, 11:20

I found new track rolled like that a number of years back. Then again, I also found it in the 21 link sections brand new.

If the track is as new as the vendor states, then I would expect them to fetch a bit more yet. They don't make the stuff anymore, and if someone did, I suspect you would pay a bit more than the price on ebay to aquire it. I think someone was on this forum once quoring around $10K to cast one carriers worth of new track.

Bruce Parker (RIP) · #9 29-11-08, 15:20

Here's hoping they are NOS as claimed and not just taken off a wreck as was suggested. Depending on how they were stored, even 'new' may not be so great. I hope whoever ends up with them contacts me for the pair of NOS sprockets I have and will sell for the right price (less E-bay fees of course).

RichardT10829 · #10 29-11-08, 17:03

wonder why they would charge so much for a cast set ? am I naive in thinking you only need one good track link to make a pattern, then the metal from the old links are melted down plus some extra bits to account for lost material in the smelting process you can drill the pin ways yourself iwht a good pillar drill no ? my thoughts were if you are going to make new tracks you could CAD a design to incoroporate track pads for the road to make them last a touch longer .

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) · #11 29-11-08, 17:53

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Originally Posted by RichardT10829

wonder why they would charge so much for a cast set ? am I naive in thinking you only need one good track link to make a pattern, then the metal from the old links are melted down plus some extra bits to account for lost material in the smelting process you can drill the pin ways yourself iwht a good pillar drill no ? my thoughts were if you are going to make new tracks you could CAD a design to incoroporate track pads for the road to make them last a touch longer .

Richard,

You're right, casting new track links is the easy part, albeit they have to be hardened. The difficult (and expensive!) part is forging/machining/hardening track pins.

Secondly, yes, I suppose one could make a padded track, but realistically it would be a lot more money and frankly, considering carriers have relatively little ground pressure, a waste of time. Rubberized tracks might allow a bit more traction on asphalt, but probably not enough to justify their design & manufacture.

RichardT10829 · #12 29-11-08, 17:56

that would be why no one has done it i guess. i will pu my mind to the pin problem then see if i can get the cogs turning....Iam lucky in respect of alot of contacts within engineering and metal fabrication....unlukcy in respect that i live in the UK.

Hanno Spoelstra · #13 30-11-08, 15:55

Guys,

Could you please post links or Ebay item numbers? I´dlike to drool over some of this stuff also.

Thanks,
Hanno

rob love · #14 30-11-08, 16:42

Looks like I was partly right about the track going for a bit more than the $2400. It was actually a lot more...$6309 Cdn on a snipe in the last 11 seconds of the auction.

It's getting so we will have to start hiring security guards to protect our carriers when we are away from home.

Item number: 270307022385

Hanno Spoelstra · #15 01-12-08, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

This carrier just sold on E-bay for $4,457.10 (Canadian), almost 40 bids and sniped up from $3,600 in the very last seconds.

See Bren Gun (Universal) Carrier, Mk II, No.2- World War 2 Item number: 270306172387 for more pics if you´re curious to see what you get for US $3,612.50.

H.

Hanno Spoelstra · #16 01-12-08, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

...this Mk.1 went for $6,909.28 (Canadian) after 41 bids.

See Bren Gun (Universal) Carrier, World War 2 Item number: 270306580474 for more pics if you´re curious to see what you get for US $5,600.00.

H.

Hanno Spoelstra · #17 01-12-08, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob love

Looks like I was partly right about the track going for a bit more than the $2400. It was actually a lot more...$6309 Cdn on a snipe in the last 11 seconds of the auction.

It's getting so we will have to start hiring security guards to protect our carriers when we are away from home.

Item number: 270307022385

Thanks Rob,

Bren Gun (Universal) Carrier, Unused (new) Tracks- WWII Item number: 270307022385

My guess is these tracks are take-offs, I´ve seen rolls like this before and they were never new. As far as I know new links came in sections of 21.

H.

RichardT10829 · #18 01-12-08, 10:31

yep there is more track up in Australia too

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/bren-gun-carr...1%7C240%3A1318

Lynn Eades · #19 02-12-08, 10:28

Basically carriers were fitted with a continuous length of track at the factory, but in a service situation it was supplied in 21 link sections.

ron · #20 03-12-08, 06:03

Here are a couple of shots of new old stock track in ite original 21 links,
I have a couple of sets and they are to go on my Met gas carrier and a
my South Aust carrier Regards Ron

ron · #21 03-12-08, 06:05

This is one that will get the new track

ron · #22 03-12-08, 06:07

I forgot to tell you that when I picked up the track the original tags were still in place on each section of 21 links, this is my Met gas carrier that gets the other set

ron · #23 03-12-08, 06:12

This is my early vic rail carrier all of my carriers have had the wheels re /rubbered its woeth it when you have new track to work with

ron · #24 03-12-08, 06:16

Here we have engines waiting to be fitted and a couple of spare air scoops for the next projects

ron · #25 03-12-08, 06:21

Sorry I forgot to include the shot of my spare air scoops, in the background behind the engines you can just make out a some of a set of Matilda tank engine covers that are up for trade, regards Ron

Danny Bosma · #26 03-12-08, 13:02

Hi

What is the max and mininal number off track links that should be in a track ?

And does anyone know what this would be for the T16 carrier ?

Cheers,

Danny

horsa · #27 03-12-08, 16:55

The T-16 would originally have had eight 21-link sections plus six individual links to be removed over time for adjustment as the track stretched out. So the total from the factory would be 174 links.

Also just checked eBay to see the status of the T-16 that was up for auction. Looks like it got up to about $19,600 and someone new came along and did the buy-it-now for $21,500USD. That vehicle was still mostly in postwar Swiss configuration with the exception of a few minor things having been removed like the armored turn signals. It will end up being a very expensive vehicle once they add on all of the missing lockers, fuel tanks, etc if they plan to restore it properly to WWII configuration. Plus the seller has a note on the listing that it didn't include his spares or tools which the buyer has first refusal on before they are sold elsewhere.

colin jones · #28 04-12-08, 01:07

Crickey Ron, did you just get an order from the defence dept. Your've got a production line going on there.
Colin

sapper740 · #29 04-12-08, 04:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by horsa

Also just checked eBay to see the status of the T-16 that was up for auction. Looks like it got up to about $19,600 and someone new came along and did the buy-it-now for $21,500USD.

Dave, if the buyer had a copy of the latest Supply Line he could have bought it for the advertised price of $20,400.00. Derek.

ron · #30 04-12-08, 11:25

Hi Colin,
Production line? Mmmm now thats an idea, seems you are not doing to badly either, sure beats just sitting and letting them rust away,I always reckon if you carnt restore them why just sit on them, Pass them on to someone who will, and that way they are there for future generations to enjoy, Pity that we are not neighbours then we could really stir up the dust, By the way many years ago I used to spend a lot of time down at Two wells on Buckland Park,catching Fallow deer,
Regards, ron