Mk.1* carrier radiator shroud ?

[RichardT10829]

Hey folks, just embarking on reproduction of the fan shroud for my carrier, for some reason I thought the drawings were with the set that came with Vol.3 of the carrier books, but it seems not (well I cannot find it)

Am I right in thinking the shroud does not clip to the radiator, but rather to the hull floor and the engine top cover ?

I have the bottom section already, so there is a start I guess !

[Ben]

Yeah, doesn't fit to the rad. Speak to Russ, he has a pattern.

[RichardT10829]

Cheers..

Will try and catch up with him. I was sure there were drawings in the set though ?!

[eddy8men]

here you go mate

[eddy8men]

i've got plenty of soft white felt if you need it

[RichardT10829]

Cheers Rick.

Just need the measurements now

Had not realised it was made from so many bits !

[eddy8men]

can't help you there, i need one myself

[RichardT10829]

Looking at the image it appears as though the whole assembly hangs from the top engine cover !

Blimey

[Lynn Eades]

Rich,There is a bolt in each lower corner that go into the lower engine cover rails. (see where the slots are for the rails)
The bottom of the fan circle piece sits on the shoulder of the bit under the engine bed rail forward bits. The radiator top mount (tongue) goes through the slot at the top. I can give you measurements, but not until next week. I am busy till then.

[Lynn Eades]

The four bolts that go down from the top go into captive nuts (bits of steel welded on) One half over laps the other at the centre. the felt is held on with bif. rivets. The felt goes over the top pipes and under the top mount slot.

[RichardT10829]

Cheers, it looks like British over engineering as always

[derk derin]

I remember restoring my carrier years ago and when it was all finished I then came across those shroud pieces and looked at the work involved to try and fit them in there. I decided to leave them out as I wasn't up to the challenge of trying to disasemble everything again to get it installed. Then for it's first parade the radiator decided to blow up on me! (Radiator was plugged causing poor circulation!).Must have been a sign as I had to tow the carrier home and take everything apart again to change the radiator.Made sure the shrouds went in that time!
Regards,Derk

[rob love]

I installed an 8BA (actually an 8RT)engine into my carrier, so due to the different fan placement, left the shrouds out. The vehicle would overheat after 4 minutes of run time. I sent the rad for cleaning, and used several containers of CLR into my block to try and remove some of the scaling. Re-assembled and it was not that much better. So, using the originals as templates, I made the same thing except with allowance for the new fan position. It made all the difference in the world, and you could tell sitting in the driver's seat that the airflow was many times what I was getting with no shroud.

Engine still runs on the hot side, but I have never had it overheat since. Eventually I will install one of my TL engines, and use the original shrouds, but I'm pretty sure I'll miss the extra 15 hp of the 8BA engine.

[RichardT10829]

I have to say I always wondered how much difference the shroud would make but it seems quite a bit !

[kosbie]

Ritchie
Do you still need the dimensions. My original shroud is currently off the carrier so let me know if you still need them and I will measure it up and send them to you
Rick

[RichardT10829]

Rick that would be great, I am struggling a bit at the minute. And running out of time ! Carrier is due onto the south coast in just over a fortnight

Russ has two lower plates left that are fantastic reproductions... I have this bit already though.

[eddy8men]

if you get the dimensions and drawings, i'll send them to "barry the cad" to measure up and get another 10 sets burned out.

[Michael R.]

The bracket to connect the radiator to the engine cover is TL 13358. The radiator connection plate fits through the slot found in the fan cowl plates TL 13359/TL 13360.

[eddy8men]

thanks michael

[RichardT10829]

Cheers Michael.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Michael R.

The bracket to connect the radiator to the engine cover is TL 13358. The radiator connection plate fits through the slot found in the fan cowl plates TL 13359/TL 13360.

Next question. In the right hand picture, right side is the brass fitting that takes the small overflow hose from the rad cap on one side, and a copper tube on the other. The copper tube runs from this fitting, along the inside of the top right engine cover angle iron and, on early carrier,s draining to the ground out the engine vents on the rear plate, and in later ones, back up, over the rear armour and into a 2 gallon water can in the bracket beside the battery box. The only thing I can't figure out is how the copper tube gets from this fitting to the engine cover angle iron. There simply isn't a gap or a hole for it to do so. ?????

[Lynn Eades]

Bruce, in the British parts book that Michael has used there are 3 different copper pipes, going to 3 different locations.
Two pipes show joins (Rotheram fittings?) Effectively a very short pipe joined to a longer one at the elbow you are talking about. One pipe has a second join at the back of the engine cover, where it crosses to the other side. The third pipe is a one piece one start to finish. All the carrier models use the same bits from that elbow back to the rad.
Any help?