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Protec Khaki Green No.3
Hi all - let the confusion disappear. I attended the Adelaide factory today after learning my main contact, Andy, had left taking with him valuable customer information. Hence the confusion in recent times trying to access this paint. Anyway it is all sorted out.
If you need this paint contact Protec on 08 8447 6311 and ask for David King who is the colour matcher/mixer. Quote the colour name of Satin Khaki Green No.3 T/S and my name, Bob Moseley. The base paint is Protec Equipment Enamel 304. It takes about a week from order due to the satin process. They accept credit card over the telephone and will deliver to their interstate stores. Bear in mind this is my interpretation of the colour, based on my 2001 restoration of a Bren Gun Carrier where I found a patch of this colour in a sun and weather unexposed area. If you have any problems with Protec, contact me and I will sort it out. Bob
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Thanks
Thank you Bob as ambassador for the Khaki movement.
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Did this "Nr 3" use on English production vehicles only?
How about Americans? Especially Macks? |
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KG No.3
Hi Slava - this was the colour used in Australia in the early 1940s before variations of Olive Drab came into vogue. Most American trucks I have seen were a deep bronze green.
Bob
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Hi Bob!
I had my question not quite by chance. I met a note in a book about military Mack trucks that model LMSW of 1941-42 was painted at factory British Khaki No.3. It was stranged me because all another trucks in the book described as Olive Drab or Coronado Tan. |
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Colour depended on the contract. Mack trucks supplied under British purchasing commission (BPC) contracts were painted in Brit standard camouflage green, while those for US contracts were completed in US Deep Olive Drab.
Upon arrival in Australia (Australia recd Lend Lease vehicles by 'bidding' against supply contracts placed by the BPC, who decided who got what of the available vehicles), they were painted overall at the time of their assembly by the Australian assembly contractor. The Australian Govt issued a Contract Demand for assembly of CKD vehicles that included a paint specification. The paint spec for those assembled in Oz was invariably Khaki Green No.3 as the base colour, of which there were two 'shades' during the course of the war. Specs also included a disruptive colour if required for a particular vehicle type. Mike C |
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Too interesting Mike.
May be I'm not so good educated in questions of a shipement, but you noted CKD. I know only PartlyKD. What this "C" means? And what is the second color of British standard camouflage green? I'm in interest of Mack trucks mostly and red about Coronado Tan color for vehicles with destination of Australia. Vlad. |
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Hi Vlad,
CKD = Complete Knock Down, ie boxes with the major unit assemblies packed inside. Interesting you have a ref for 'Coronado Tan': perhaps that equates to the Khaki Brownish colour found on some CMPs, too? Will have to look into that further. My post was, of course, a broad generalisation: there were exceptions. Mike C |
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My mistake: insert PKD in place of CKD in my post.
At least a proportion of CMPs arriving in Oz were certainly CKD (Ford chassis arrived in 'packs of 5', for example). But Hanno is correct: most others arrived as PKDs by the definition he has provided, and assembled by local companies under Aust Govt contract. Lanes Motors, for example, were one of several awarded assembly contracts for jeeps. Mike C |
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Thank you for lection.
History of my own country conteins most facts of WW2 from Russian front. Lend Lease questions were not popularised too in times of Soviet Union. Although I'm interesting WW2 vehicles for only last 2 years since I have one. |
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How much paint is reqd
Hi Bob, I just came across this info about paint colours, was reading thru and spotted that you had painted a carrier, around about how much paint is required to paint a carrier?
Thanks, Lew |
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Paint Quantity
Hi Lew - according to 1943 Regs. six pints (@ 3.3lts) of base colour were required. To be safe I would obtain 2 x 4lts.
Bob
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