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Old 08-05-17, 10:23
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just wondering if the Australian Army had the Early or the late model of this vehicle?

What are the differences between the two models in general?

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Old 09-05-17, 00:24
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Good morning Cliff, what you have there is the Australian modified version of the normal M3A1 White Scout Car. It has added armour all around the rear and over the doors. The height of the added armour is 13 inches and angled in at 30 degrees. It is also only 3/16 on an inch thick whereas the sides are 1/4" thick. The tops of the doors were cut to a straight line to meet the over-door armour and the rear step was strengthened to enable a spare wheel to be carried there. The extra armour stopped the use of the majority of the tourelle skate rail for the one .50cal and 2 x.30cal Browning machine guns normally fitted. As a result a single .303 Bren Gun was suspended from the Gallows mount welded to the right side. The vehicle was fitted with a telephone cable retrieval set up in the rear and was fitted with rollers front and rear to assist in the laying and a pick up post was mounted on the front to assist the retrieval of the line. The wheels on that model on the photos shows that it is an early version as they are the 1942 Budd wheels without the larger cut outs of the later lots. The scout car was built in 7 lots and Australia received Scout Cars from Lot 2 to Lot 7. The Armoured Observation Post or AOP was used by the Artillery units.

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Old 09-05-17, 09:44
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Thanks Rick. I ordered the kit this morning to form the base for a model of the Australian one. Any other information/photos from anyone would be welcome
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Old 09-05-17, 13:27
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Cliff, I don't know if this helps you or not, but to fit the additional armour so that the top edge is level, the curve in the side panels has to be removed. From memory on the 1:1 scale vehicle, they made a straight cut to removed a bit out of the curve about 3/4" deep at the side join, tapering out about 15 to 18 inches each side of the join.

There is one scout car in OZ which has been returned from an AOP to an original shape by the removal of the added armour and the owner did not realize that he had to add that 3/4 inch curved bit back to get the gentle curve of the original. It just looks wrong.

The post on the front bumper behind the roller folds down and lays across the bumper with a bracket and pin to hold it down when horizontal. It has a slot angled across the top to enable the telephone line to be fitted when it is vertical to allow retrieval when on the move. A winch set up is mounted on the left locker over the right rear wheel. This locker then has two small hinged doors cut into the vertical side so that items can be placed and removed from the locker as the top cannot be lifted because of the winch.

Boys anti-tank rifle mounts are also fitted to the rear armour and to the front. (I think the front one goes between the windscreens welded to the skate rail.) I have both here if you want a photo.

The rear bumper bar is shortened to two small parts around the tail lights and fitted with a step made of 1/2" bar welded below. The two inner mounts are cut, bent inwards and welded to form a triangle to support the spare wheel which sits on the rear step with two inverted pieces of angle welded to the step to stop the spare wheel from rolling towards the side of the vehicle.

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