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Old 15-05-12, 01:54
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Default MK I carrier seats

Is any one out there making MK I carrier seat parts. I have borrowed a drivers seat to copy and am going to attempt to make my own seats both drivers and gunners.
The only hard parts to make are the castings where the seats attach to the hull.
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Old 18-05-12, 03:56
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Default MK I carrier seats

Again talking about MK I carrier seats.
Does any one have the dimentions for the seat backs, width, height, thickness of the board, is the board plywood?
Thickness of the padding.
Nigels books have good pictures but no figures.
I have the plates for the top of the seat backs and 2 upper mounting brackets.
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MK I * universal carrier
1942 WLC Harley under restoration
1957 M38A1 jeep
R.E.L. optical equipment
Military manuals
Field phones
MK II 19 set (needs work)
4 MK III W-19 sets
AN/PRC-9
CPRC-26
WS-29 componets
WS-38 AFV
WS-38 MK III
WS-48 with generator
WS-58 MK I
MK V heliograph
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Old 18-05-12, 23:44
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Default Roberta

I dont have the info you require, and need the same for my self, so as I attempt to help you with what I can. I imagine there are quite a few Canadians around you with originals, but they are obviously shy.
The MkI* seats (apart from where "handedness" applies) are the same both sides. That means they both go up and down.
The top brackets are the same as the bottom brackets and you will find matching pairs of holes in the division plate for the lower ones.
What I have here is the original seat back covers.
From them, I would guess that the foam/padding/ horse hair etc is 1.000" (or 25mm) thick.
The overall width is 37.5mm, and the overall height is 647mm.
This includes the borders. There are 4 lift the dot things on each side and 4 along the top.
There are 5 along the bottom, but the bottom end opens for the padding to be inserted. The L.T.D things are part of the front cover, and the studs for the L.T.D fittings pass through eylets in the rear half of the cover.
I didnt have a sample so cut some flat bar, and welded some rod to it for my brackets across what I would guess is 1/2" ply.
My covers may have shrunk, but the gap between the brackets on the div plate will tell you the max width.
I cannot tell you what height the top of the seat back sits at.
If you need any more info I can do that regards the bases.
I can't remember details, but Jordans carrier thread is very informative.
Go Girl!

ps. I think the stud photo is Jordans. If you can find a source. I need them.
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Old 19-05-12, 03:40
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Here's some pics of a Mk2 seats but I don't know if the Mk1 were the same. If they were I'll get you some measurements.
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Old 19-05-12, 04:33
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They are quite different, but thanks for the pictures, I have never seen the MKII* seats before.
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Old 19-05-12, 09:13
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Here's some pics of a Mk2 seats but I don't know if the Mk1 were the same. If they were I'll get you some measurements.
Those are really modified Mk2 seats ! in fact the gunners seat looks totaly wrong.
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Old 19-05-12, 22:19
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Thanks for that very helpful post.
However can I suggest that is a MII* seat back, as the early (1941 MkI*) parts book shows the same upper and lower brackets on the division plate, and the same straight ended bar (CTL5062), at the top and bottom of the seat back.
Another possibility is, just a change during production, ie. Early and late MkI* production.
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