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Old 31-12-17, 08:46
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Default Wireless Set 19 - ID - Help Please

Hi All,
Recently I swapped some radio chassis for a 19 set,

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Of course the Identity Plate is missing! (Scrap brass must have been worth a fortune, once)

The layout is different to my other sets
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The only valves in it when I picked it up, were the big 807 and the little 6H6GT glass valve,
Unusual that they were left in it.
Also strange that the 6H6 is not a little metal unit.
The 807 is near the tuning condenser.
The wire to L3a has come adrift.

I have purchased all the other Valves from Joe Oost. (Thanks Joe)
They all light up, the filament circuit must be intact, this is a good start.
I have repaired the Square meter and it now works. (On 12 Volts range)

There are 3 output valves - big 6V6Gs
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The B set tuning condenser and the valve 9072 (What ever that is ?) have been removed.
The valve arrangement in the B set and the IC are different to the other sets.

Underneath are tag strips everywhere, What a nightmare to wire in?
And a bigger nightmare to trace to the valve sockets, almost impossible I should think.
The plus side is the caps should be easy to change.
Maybe, As there is thick varnish sticking everything together!
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Quite obviously AWA Australian made by the look of the condensers and the rounded transformers.
The trimmer condensers have been pirated as well as the 6 pin power socket, shame actually, as the set otherwise appears unmolested.
Except there seems a-lot of space there on that side of the chasis.

The only number I can find - 12475
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On the bracket that holds coil L3a, in fact the only number in the set.

So 'What is it' ? Please

What is a 9072 valve ?

Advice or pictures of the trimmer capacitors in place would be appreciated,

I would like obtain/purchase a circuit for this particular model.
All 9 of the valve shields are missing too, these I would like to obtain/purchase as well.

Any other 19 bits (obtain/purchase) to complete this set would also be appreciated,

Thanks, cheers rod
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Old 31-12-17, 09:49
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Hi Rod.

I think it is an Australian built Wireless Set No. 19 Mk II, but cannot offer you much more than that Iím afraid.

Quite an interesting layout. Perhaps adapted somewhat to suite available, local manufacturing resources?

David
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Old 01-01-18, 03:47
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I can offer some assistance.

I think I still have a photocopy of the manual but not sure. I had three of those AWA 19 sets in my collection.

These uncommon 19 sets were made during 1943 by the AWA works in Sydney. Those knobs are typical AWA type and were used on the 11 set as well.

The valve lineup, except for the 807, is different to the other ubiquitous 19 sets. AWA used the locally made AWV brand valves. 6U7G is one I recall ? They also changed the circuit around - they added a second audio amp and deleted a IF amp , or something like that.

Not an easy set to work on with many of the components hidden beneath other component boards. A real pain actually.
There was also a Aust. made power supply and all of the ancillaries, control boxes and the ATU.
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Old 01-01-18, 04:35
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Old 01-01-18, 04:50
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Old 01-01-18, 12:28
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I can offer some assistance.

I think I still have a photocopy of the manual but not sure. I had three of those AWA 19 sets in my collection.
When the WS19 group archive comes back up after the holidays there's a copy of the manual that can be requested from there:

Doc 1675 Wireless Set No.19 Mk II (Aust.)
Signal Training Volume III, Aust. Pamphlet No 15, Wireless Set No 19 Mk II (Aust.), 1943

It's more like the Canadian and US manuals (in that it's got the circuit diagrams, parts lists, and suchlike) rather than the British "just enough for the operator to use the set" Working Instructions pamphlet.

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Old 01-01-18, 13:18
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Thanks Fellas
Thanks Mike,

The control box on the jerrry can is yet another configeration

With the information I have found a manual

http://www.tuberadio.com/robinson/Ma...rovisional.pdf

This seems to be it alright. Mk2/2

Now to track down 4 huge trimmer capacitors,

Although I might try to get some static out of it first

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Thanks Chris, I think I joined the 19 group and the one in canada, Even posted photos a long time ago.
I have had a change of internet provider forced upon me and can't seem to be able to get back in.
I tried emailing ws19 re my password but never any reply.

Now days I am confused with Yahoo it's either needed not allowed or something

I will try again sometime and maybe download their manual

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Here is a challenge to make any person weep. A real

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-19-Se...-/192414236818

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I'll have the B set tuner, thumb wheel and its box, Please

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Oh dear, Although it won't take long to trace out, Ha Ha there is not much left to trace

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Anyone, Where to get those trimmers and rubber 5 pin plugs and sockets.

There was a rubber molder in town, I must see if he still there and if he could mold some

And then to find some 6 and 12 pin plugs and sockets that are not £45 each plus post!

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Old 01-01-18, 13:31
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I have found the perfect control box for the wrecked 19 set

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ww2-milit...EAAOSw9OFZMuZY

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Post is a killer for an empty box

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Old 01-01-18, 13:40
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Default acid or water ?

I can see a stoneware jar in the background of the first pic in post #5 ( the operator handing the note over ) , Would the jar contain battery acid or maybe it is a jar of distilled water for the batteries ?
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Here is a challenge to make any person weep. A real

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-19-Se...-/192414236818

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I'll have the B set tuner, thumb wheel and its box, Please .

cheers rod
Ha Ha - "Won" that chassis for a lot less when it was relisted. Picked it up at Stoneleigh last weekend. An hour or two of dissembly, tin bashing, cleaning and repainting resulted in the B set tuning wheel having a new life in here...
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Old 17-05-18, 11:27
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Here is another pretty 19 set for a project

Ebay UK https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WIRELESS...97.m4902.l9144

A section receiver - appears fairly complete


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