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Old 21-08-07, 12:04
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Default CMP tool box information

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Just noticed this on an e-PAY store and thought it interesting and unusual.

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This is New Old Stock and in mint condition

It is a reel of steel wire from the toolbox of a Ford Canadian Military Pattern Vehicle from 1941 the perfect addition to your tools

Part Number C01Q 17167
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Old 13-08-14, 20:47
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Default CMP tool box - dimensions, data

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Original CMP tool box, will need a fresh coat of paint. Complete with inside tray that is usually missing. Has "Dominion Department of Labour" Tag attached. Please see pics. Box is in good condition and a great addition to store those equally rare tools in.
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Old 17-08-14, 17:00
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Default CMP tool box - dimensions, data

Mr. Harris,

Can I ask you if you can take some overall measurements of the box and post them here? I have never seen a genuine toolbox at this end of the pond....or maybe I did, but just didn't recognize it . A few measurements would help my search for one.


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Old 17-08-14, 17:00
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Default CMP tool box - dimensions, data

Mr. Harris,

Can I ask you if you can take some overall measurements of the box and post them here? I have never seen a genuine toolbox at this end of the pond....or maybe I did, but just didn't recognize it . A few measurements would help my search for one.


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Old 19-08-14, 02:22
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Alex,

I will dig out another tool box and take photos with measurements for ALL to see.

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Alex,

I will dig out another tool box and take photos with measurements for ALL to see.

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Old 21-08-14, 00:02
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Thanks Bruce. That would be great. Another bit of info for the MLU info base

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Old 21-08-14, 00:02
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Thanks Bruce. That would be great. Another bit of info for the MLU info base

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Old 31-08-14, 12:35
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Default CMP tool box - dimensions, data

Alex,
Here is some info for the cmp toolbox:
lenght is 16 1/2" (419 mm), 6 1/2" (165 mm) large and the height is 7"
(180 mm) handle not included.
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Old 31-08-14, 14:34
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I have a tool box at work that is identical to that, was his tool box after he came home from the war... Also a lot of his tools that i believe he may have brought home with him.

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Old 01-09-14, 20:17
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Herman,

Thanks! Those pictures and measurements are a real help.

Is that small tray welded into place? or can it be taken out?

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Old 01-09-14, 21:20
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Alex,
The small tray is spot welded on the front and the rear toolbox panel and
cannot be removed.
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Old 29-03-15, 20:33
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Evening all,

Found this today and suspected it was a CMP toolbox, but had not seen one for real. Took a chance and bought it (full of very old plumbing kit).

When I've got it home and emptied out all the contents the 1945 Christmas card was wrapped up in the cloth.

Was going to ask for advice on whether this was a genuine article, but from looking at the photos on this thread I think my hunch was correct. It will need a good clean and partial repaint.

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Old 29-03-15, 21:16
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Was going to ask for advice on whether this was a genuine article, but from looking at the photos on this thread I think my hunch was correct. It will need a good clean and partial repaint.
John,

Your hunch was nearly correct: as it says Ford on the side and therefore has a locking tab for the more valuable tools & spares.
As you have a Chev you need to exchange it with my toolbox so the proper toolbox is in the proper truck.



Nice find!
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Old 29-03-15, 21:35
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Nice catch John! Indeed a nice CMP toolbox. Maurice was able to help me with half a toolbox and I now have Hanno's box here to copy the lid and handle.
I did make a lid a few weeks ago, but sadly I made it slightly too small....it works, but I am sure that after some paint and after fitting the hinges and lock with rivets, it won't.

Alex

p.s. John. I will email you the 10cwt trailer pics in a few minutes.

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Old 29-03-15, 22:19
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John,

Your hunch was nearly correct: as it says Ford on the side and therefore has a locking tab for the more valuable tools & spares.
As you have a Chev you need to exchange it with my toolbox so the proper toolbox is in the proper truck.



Nice find!
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Ha Ha Hanno,
I thought because it was for a Ford, it had seen so much repeated use that the catch had broken and a replacement locking hasp had been fitted........
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Trailer, 10cwt, Water Lightweight ,100gallon;
Trailer, 10cwt, Cargo Lightweight 10cwt No1 MkII;
Trailer, 10cwt, Electrical Repair Mk.2; Ex-Airborne REME;
Trailer, 10cwt, Lightweight, Electric Welding Mk 2 SOLD
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Old 21-05-15, 08:42
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Default Markings on CMP Toolbox

I've cleaned up the toolbox I found in a junk-shop and posted photos earlier in this thread.
There are no obvious manufacturer's markings on this box to help with identification. I guess that is the same for all CMP boxes?

But once all the paint was taken off, there is a tiny stamp on each hInge stating "Stanley CANADA". This might be useful for anyone else looking to confirm Canadian manufacture of similar boxes
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1943 Chevrolet C60s Wrecker;
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1944 BSA Folding Bicycle (W&P 2011, 2012 and 2014: Best BSA "Para Bike");
Trailer, 10cwt, Water Lightweight ,100gallon;
Trailer, 10cwt, Cargo Lightweight 10cwt No1 MkII;
Trailer, 10cwt, Electrical Repair Mk.2; Ex-Airborne REME;
Trailer, 10cwt, Lightweight, Electric Welding Mk 2 SOLD
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Old 21-05-15, 10:19
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Thank you as i have never seen one found the photos on the enet lol the would be great of you thanks Bruce
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Alex,

I will dig out another tool box and take photos with measurements for ALL to see.

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Old 21-05-15, 14:43
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John,

The Pedlar People Ltd. of Oshawa Ontario made (at least some of) the CMP toolboxes. Peter Ford's INFOEX listed Pedlar as making 40-mm & 4" cartridge cases. I believe they also made radiator screens and hood (bonnet) openings for the 13 cab CMP Chevs.

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Old 22-05-15, 09:42
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I have merged various postings from various threads to keep all the information about CMP tool boxes together.

Here is a photo (courtesy of Colin McGregor Stevens) of all the tools a CMP was kitted out with. On the lower left corner one can see the tool box.

Who has a better quality scan of this picture so we can properly identify all the tools and kit?

Maybe this thread can grow in scope to include information on all of the kit on this photo?

Thanks,
Hanno

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Old 22-05-15, 14:32
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Hanno,

Thanks for merging the postings about CMP toolboxes.

The photo of all the tools (Colin M Stevens) can be found on "The Factory Photos" CD from Clive Law's Service Publications. See #s 220, 350 and 1053.

If you are expanding this thread to include all the items in the photo there is a good thread on the rare CMP First Aid Kit as started by Rob Fast on 01/01/14.

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Old 22-05-15, 15:08
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Marco posted some good photos of the Wireless truck tool kit and equipment here:

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ighlight=marco
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Old 23-05-15, 01:22
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Default Hanno, you might want to include this MLU thread?

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Old 23-05-15, 11:16
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What thickness and how long please
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Old 05-06-15, 22:13
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Default Another "Stanley" Canada Toolbox

I've found another Canadian toolbox in Sussex. Identical to the one found earlier this year and again has "Stanley Canada" hinges. On Ebay this time, just listed as a "old metal toolbox".

As before the clasp wire was missing, but it had again been fitted with a hasp instead (gas welded this time rather than riveted).

Either the original clasps were a weak point and the wires failed, or they were deliberately removed when the lockable hasp was fitted.

Seems quite a coincidence to find two, but as there were Canadian forces stationed all along this part of the south coast, perhaps these toolboxes were left behind?

Hasp removed and cleaned up ready for painting.
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1944 BSA Folding Bicycle (W&P 2011, 2012 and 2014: Best BSA "Para Bike");
Trailer, 10cwt, Water Lightweight ,100gallon;
Trailer, 10cwt, Cargo Lightweight 10cwt No1 MkII;
Trailer, 10cwt, Electrical Repair Mk.2; Ex-Airborne REME;
Trailer, 10cwt, Lightweight, Electric Welding Mk 2 SOLD
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They could very well have been sold off following the end of hostilities as there was a vast quantity of surplus Canadian war materiel in the UK and mainland Europe.
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We have had this discussion before regarding ammo boxes, but I am presuming the toolboxes followed the same base paint colour as vehicles.....Khaki Green G3 early war, SCC2 Brown mid war, SCC15 late war?
Any thoughts?

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Gents,

I'm collecting a standard issue CMP vehicle toolbox when I visit Ontario in November. I'll need to fit it into my checked luggage to bring it home.

Could an MLU member please provide me with the external dimensions? That way I can take a suitcase large enough, but not tooo large, with me for the trip.

Thanks in anticipation

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Hi Mike

You mean one of these?

If so it’s
16-1/2” long
6-1/2” deep
7-1/4” tall
8-1/2” tall in area of handle when folded flat
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Thanks Jordan, that is exactly the tool box I mean.

Thank you for going to the trouble of running the tape over it.

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