Ford - Chevrolet Gun Tractor

[blitzkriegwarrior]

I recently bought another CMP gun tractor , cab 13 , as usual without the back body
Does anybody knows about the existence of blueprints to reconstruct the body ,
Any help greatly apreciated !

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Hello Philip,

Interesting project, is it a Ford or Chevrolet and can you share photos of it?

There is an FGT in Belgium restored from scratch by Stijn Van Haverbeke, maybe he made drawings.

Hanno

[blitzkriegwarrior]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Interesting project, is it a Ford or Chevrolet and can you share photos of it?

Hi Hanno ,
Thanks for your intrest in my project ,
I bought my first gun tractor (Ford ) about 15 years ago , not knowing what I'd achieved , with lots of work to be done. Intend to restore it anyway.
Several weeks ago I bought a second truck , a Chevrolet gun tractor , cab 13 , engine , drivetrain and chassis are in fair state, photos will follow.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Here's the thread of Stijn's FGT: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7841

[blitzkriegwarrior]

Thanks Hanno , Stijn is a good friend of mine . I'll have to relie on his drawings and plans to reconstruct the body's.
By the way , I've got the old lady home now , photos will follow!

[Dusonn]

Hi Phillip,

I may help if you give me some time, will be making drawings and taking dimmensions from Frrantisek Nachlingers Quad for myself. PM sent.

Dusan

[blitzkriegwarrior]

Thanks , there is no hurry required , happy to recieve all the help I can get .
If I can do something in return , please do not hesitate to ask me !
Best regards ,
Philip

[blitzkriegwarrior]

the new arrival

[Chris Preston]

Hi Phil,

God............I wish I could find one of these. I could give it a really good home.

Very nice find - I'm envious.

Cheers,

Chris Preston,
Victoria, BC

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Nice project

It does not look like an old worn-out CGT which was cut down as a breakdown truck. What happened to the FAT body?

[blitzkriegwarrior]

Originally Posted by Chris Preston

Hi Phil,

God............I wish I could find one of these. I could give it a really good home.

Very nice find - I'm envious.

Cheers,

Chris Preston,
Victoria, BC

They do turn up , now and then , I know about another one , still for sale!

cheers

[blitzkriegwarrior]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Nice project

It does not look like an old worn-out CGT which was cut down as a breakdown truck. What happened to the FAT body?

Hi Hanno ,
It's not realy that worn out , restoration of chassis and drive train has been done by the previous owner , who had to let go (due to his age and health) , FAT body must have been removed somewhere in the past to convert it to a breakdown truck , unfortunately no traces of these bodies over here , all scrapped I guess.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by blitzkriegwarrior

Does anybody knows about the existence of blueprints to reconstruct the body ,

Philip,

No blueprints that I know of, but I posted a drawing in this thread. Maybe there are more out there - who has access to the AEDB Design Records?

HTH,
Hanno

[Walde Libera]

Look what I had to work with, spent a day at the Newtonville wrecking yard measured up real FAT.

Thanks Walde

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Philip,

No blueprints that I know of, but I posted a drawing in this thread. Maybe there are more out there - who has access to the AEDB Design Records?

HTH,
Hanno

...I have heard few days ago, from a guy who has a nice and complete cab 12 CGT, that the sections (blue rectangled) of the cab 12 and cab 13 rear bodies are identical, all the boxes, doors etc., could anyone confirm that, please? It would be than much more easier to rebuild the missing parts for my cab 13. rear body, if it could be just copied from the nice one that is so close...

BTW - great base for the FAT, congrats!

Frankie

[JRRDixon]

iirc there is one of these sitting out at McLean auto wrecker near Milton Ontario. It has been the subject of a lot of photographers who take pictures in the old yard. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...YYfHDaWCipWVLg

[Keith Webb]

I found a link to a large number of photographs of reasonable size including some of the FGT and other CMPs here, particularly from about the 50% mark.

http://www.flickriver.com/groups/mcl...l/interesting/

Originally Posted by JRRDixon

iirc there is one of these sitting out at McLean auto wrecker near Milton Ontario. It has been the subject of a lot of photographers who take pictures in the old yard. https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...YYfHDaWCipWVLg

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

I found a link to a large number of photographs of reasonable size including some of the FGT and other CMPs here, particularly from about the 50% mark.

http://www.flickriver.com/groups/mcl...l/interesting/

Loads of interesting pics distracting from finding the FGT!

Here's one pic of it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/437091...sautowreckers/

Others can be found from roughly this page onward as Keith mentioned: https://www.flickr.com/groups/mclean...rs/pool/page11

[Keith Webb]

The bigger question is: Is it still there or has someone rescued it?

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Loads of interesting pics distracting from finding the FGT!

Here's one pic of it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/437091...sautowreckers/

Others can be found from roughly this page onward as Keith mentioned: https://www.flickr.com/groups/mclean...rs/pool/page11

[Ian Johns]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

The bigger question is: Is it still there or has someone rescued it?

I got the last 12 cab FAT out of there but there was a 13 cab FAT there. It's just a cab and chassis but they belong to Stew Robertson if anyone is interested. There are a few other CMPs but you may need a chainsaw to get what's left of them out.

[Keith Webb]

Thanks for the update Ian and good to hear the FGT was rescued. Having looked through all of the photos in that link from various photographers it was amazing to see how many were just the same as each other and how few had the creative powers to recognise and photograph the CMPs, the gems of that collection.

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Having looked through all of the photos in that link from various photographers it was amazing to see how many were just the same as each other and how few had the creative powers to recognise and photograph the CMPs

Yes, thanks for the bum steer Keith! One thousand eight hundred and fourteen close ups of rust patterns!

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

Yes, thanks for the bum steer Keith! One thousand eight hundred and fourteen close ups of rust patterns!

Haha, my pleasure Tony!

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

One thousand eight hundred and fourteen close ups of rust patterns!

In fairness there are some worthy images amongst the dross. Collection just needs a massive cull.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

OK rusty old truck lovers, now let's get back to topic: Frankie wondered if the rear section of the FAT bodies are identical?

As far as I can tell - based on observation - is that the rear sections are indeed the same. Can anyone confirm?

Originally Posted by Frantisek Nachlinger

...I have heard few days ago, from a guy who has a nice and complete cab 12 CGT, that the sections (blue rectangled) of the cab 12 and cab 13 rear bodies are identical, all the boxes, doors etc., could anyone confirm that, please? It would be than much more easier to rebuild the missing parts for my cab 13. rear body, if it could be just copied from the nice one that is so close...

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Hello Philip,
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There is an FGT in Belgium restored from scratch by Stijn Van Haverbeke, maybe he made drawings.
Hanno

I have asked Stijn - yes, he has the drawings.

[Jonathan Moore]

A very interesting project. Is the rear the same as on a 12cab FGT? I am in the process of hopefully buying a very, very rusty one and if I get it any drawings would be a real help.

Jon

[blitzkriegwarrior]

In my opinion , cab 12 is different from cab 13 , rear ends as well .

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by blitzkriegwarrior

In my opinion , cab 12 is different from cab 13 , rear ends as well .

I just was offered a rear bod for early cab, was thinking about putting it on my cab 13... but then I heard the price and decded to build it from nothing

[Niels V]

I also consider that rear body but, the cost and transport was too much.