Ford Cab 11 FGT info wanted

[aj.lec]

Hello All
Chasing information and pictures regarding the floor pan arrangement and pan panels to suit a Ford Cab 11 FGT

How were the chassis supplied for body installation (what was fitted in cab chassis form) ?

What is the arrangement of components on the floor pan ?

Did the beetleback body slide in to gap of floor pan or was it fitted over a full width floor pan as in the Chev CGT's ?

[Bob Carriere]

....from memory of original Ford factory pictures ...it seems that the rolling frame with front cab was done first and a total "beetle" back unit was installed later...... Ford pictures show the bare frame cab up to the rear of the cab floor section including the battery box already in place located centrally on the floor.... pic was available on MLU on previous threads.....

I beleive that pictures of the cab/rolling frame were also available seen parked in large number in Ford factory assembly areas

Bob C.

[cliff]

below are some pictures showing FAT chassis. The first is from Service Publications disc of factory photos the second and third are labled as CGT but shows how they came from the factory. I am not sure where I got the last 2 photos from.

I'd like to suggest that as this was an evaluation model bought here for testing that you restore it as supplied from the factory or with a truck cab rather then try and put a FAT body on it. This is just my 5 cents worth

[Keith Webb]

Pics came from an album Brian Gough has which I photographed and put some up on Oldcmp.net.
It looks like they had the standard floor and driver's seat from the factories so they could be moved easily before bodies were added.

Originally Posted by cliff

below are some pictures showing FAT chassis. The first is from Service Publications disc of factory photos the second and third are labled as CGT but shows how they came from the factory. I am not sure where I got the last 2 photos from.

I'd like to suggest that as this was an evaluation model bought here for testing that you restore it as supplied from the factory or with a truck cab rather then try and put a FAT body on it. This is just my 5 cents worth

[aj.lec]

That is what I am thinking too
Restoring to as supplied status
Mostly trying to work out what components were supplied when delivered
Appears to me by various photos seen that the Ford and Chev floor plates for the gun tractors are different .
Chevs seem to have the full width floor pan and the beetleback body just slid straight over it
The Ford ones however appear to be cut in around the centre section of the beetleback chassis(On mine checker plate has been welded in to these areas at moment)
My biggest dilema is that if restored to this floor pan configuration no seat would be able to be fitted and the vehicle would pretty much only be useable as a static display
A very boring and sad state for an old girl
Attached is a few pictures of Loyd's cab 12 in gympie showing floor pan and beetleback seats attached to body

[Keith Webb]

That cut out would make seating rather difficult. Interesting to see how much higher the seating position is in an early FGT compared with the standard cab, around the same height as a cab 13, but with the pedals relatively lower.

Originally Posted by aj.lec

That is what I am thinking too
Restoring to as supplied status
Mostly trying to work out what components were supplied when delivered
Appears to me by various photos seen that the Ford and Chev floor plates for the gun tractors are different .
Chevs seem to have the full width floor pan and the beetleback body just slid straight over it
The Ford ones however appear to be cut in around the centre section of the beetleback chassis(On mine checker plate has been welded in to these areas at moment)
My biggest dilema is that if restored to this floor pan configuration no seat would be able to be fitted and the vehicle would pretty much only be useable as a static display
A very boring and sad state for an old girl
Attached is a few pictures of Loyd's cab 12 in gympie showing floor pan and beetleback seats attached to body

[cliff]

here is a couple more shots of the floor in Lloyds gun tractor during restoration. (photos by me )

[cliff]

here is a second factory photo shot from Service Publications disc of factory photos showing the GT from the front. While this does not show the floor pan it does show no windscreen.

I would say the the chassis and running gear was 'As Per' a full truck with the only body parts being a flat faced cowl with doghouse and dash plus the floor pan. You could rig a bracket to support a seat where the floor cut out is

[aj.lec]

Thanks Cliff and Keith

Would be great to get the actual evaluation photos from delivery
I am sure they would be around unfortunately probably buried in a archive facility somewhere

Will have to start looking for parts to suit
Thus far will be requiring
-Grille
-Radiator
-Divers helmet distributor
-front and rear early fairleads
Please PM me if able to help

[Phil Waterman]

Hi

Here is a link to Hi Res Photo inside of Bill Greggs taken in 1984 think this is the Chev note dash, will look for more photos
First photo http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.com/CMP84.htm image 134 then click on the picture to enlarge and you should get a little magnifying glass cursor which will blow the picture up to max size.
Direct link to photo http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...0CMP%20134.jpg to other photos.

These are large files so don't try on a dial up connection.

Second link http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...ationShare.htm

Cheers Phil

[Bob Carriere]

I have had a close look at the various pictures od Ford trucks parked in various Canadian staging areas....usually a mix of F15...15a...F30 some long frame 4 and 6 wheel....... they are hard to enlarge but from what I can see none had any driver's seat fitted...... how they moved them around is a mystery...... there is one large group picture of mostly cab 11.... and most trcuks have the smallish hood removed..... the few FGT have no seat....

FInally is here is one from a cab 12....same issue.... standing room only..

Bob

[NORTH-SHORE(CANADA)]

Hi,
Here a link of my Ford Cab 11 i don't know if that help if you nee spécial pic let me know!
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...?t=8633&page=4

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

This photo is I think of the CGT prototype being assembled at Oshawa. I cannot see any evidence of a driver's seat even on a better image. Note the lack of an engine cover.

[aj.lec]

Thanks All
Quite interesting
Good to see body being installed .Maybe another option for useability QD beetleback