MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Carrier Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30-08-14, 22:18
Jim Burrill Jim Burrill is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hatfield, PA, USA
Posts: 429
Default Track jacks

You probably saw this jack on epay...
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/WWII-Track-Ja...b7b2dc5&_uhb=1

And a price of 360.00 has not reached a reserve yet.

I found a common Ford bumper jack for a buy it now for 65.00. The ratchet part looks identical pretty much.

To convert it to be a pretty damn close replica of a real one, it looks like I need to grind off the lift spike from the ratchet ( looks like the Carrier ones had that part cut off before casting, so the fillets still lead in to the missing spike.

Then find two bits of tube stock that match the diameter of the main round stock, weld on the lift spike to match the carrier one, with one sliding up and down the shaft, and one welded to the end of the shaft.

Has anyone else tried this?

Anyone willing to make up the two lift spikes to sell to others?

Cheers,
Jim
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 31-08-14, 02:06
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Jim, I am headed down the same track. (excuse the pun!)
There are two diameters of the commercial jack. I have both and plan to use the large one.
Other than the markings and part number the main difference is that the actuating lever that fits the original is rectangular in section and has a matching casting on the jack. the commercial style car jacks are operated with a round rod. these have of course, a matching actuating casting as part of the jack.
Like you, I can live with these differences until I trip over the original at a reasonable price.
I was hoping to borrow the hook parts, and get some copies cast. This hasn't happened yet.
I have been thinking of doing some mods to a ratchet strap (just the hook ends) to see how well they work. I know they are in common useage, ( un modified) with some carrier guys.
The plan is to substitute the standard hook with the hook from an Australian carrier track jack.
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 31-08-14, 17:09
Michael R. Michael R. is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,159
Default

Jim, I think you are heading in the right direction to modify an existing jack with the features that make it identical to the issue Canadian C01UC series jack. As your carrier is the Windsor, Canada production, it would be great if you could get the same body with the maker name and patent date. I believe the originals have the end track link hook pinned in place vs welded.

Regards the item being offered on eBay, it is not something you see every day. Is it the American production track jack for the G-166 Mk-I/MK-II T-16 U.C.'s out of Somerville, MA? The wider, shorter rod, and shorter track 'horns' suggest to me it is a G-166 tool. Similar principle as the C01UC and C31UCW series, same sub-contractor, but different.




Does anyone know if the British production U.C.'s had a similar track jack tool? Are there any images of a 'British' one in use, or are there any images to show the part numbers and other casting marks?
.
.

Last edited by Michael R.; 01-09-14 at 18:19.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 31-08-14, 19:18
Ben Ben is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 544
Default

The British made track jack............... One of life's mysteries.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 31-08-14, 20:05
Jim Burrill Jim Burrill is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hatfield, PA, USA
Posts: 429
Default type of jack as a doner

this is what I just bought on ebay for about $60.

I will try to make new lift horns and the spacer. The handle uses a round bar instead of a bit of flat stock, but I can live with this.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg jack.jpg (91.9 KB, 18 views)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-09-14, 08:51
Andrew Rowe Andrew Rowe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Manawatu , New Zealand
Posts: 544
Wink Jack

Is this the type used in UC's ( Canada ) Is this a military one or civilian one?
Where do they stow? , any special place?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCF3650.jpg (80.5 KB, 26 views)
__________________
Valentine MkV
Covenanter MkIV
Lynx MKI and MKII
Loyd Carrier / English / Candian / LP.
M3 Stuart
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-09-14, 10:39
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Andrew is there anything on the other side?
It is a track jack. Right hooks and right actuating lever.
1938 marked. how does that work? Made in Canada for prewar British carriers???? Anyone know?
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....

Last edited by Lynn Eades; 03-09-14 at 10:47.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-09-14, 17:41
kevin powles's Avatar
kevin powles kevin powles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 1,960
Default

Gents, That track jack on ebay, I enquired about a buy it now price, I was told $1200 wow

I think £200 uk pounds sterling is a fair price for the correct working jack from a seller who know what it is, a car boat sale buy is another story.

Kevin.
__________________
2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008.
3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-09-14, 19:22
RichardT10829's Avatar
RichardT10829 RichardT10829 is offline
Richard Harrison
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cullercoats Newcastle Upon Tyne United Kingdom
Posts: 3,059
Default

Ratchet strap....... Job done
__________________
is mos redintegro

__5th Div___46th Div__
1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI*
Lower Hull No. 10131
War Department CT54508 (SOLD)
1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration).
1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration).
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-09-14, 21:56
Hans Mulder Hans Mulder is offline
Frankencarrier owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hope, B.C.
Posts: 309
Default

I recently located two track jacks locally, allegedly for the Stuart, (screw type, heavy), but work well on carrier track too. I'll post a pic if I remember.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-09-14, 01:29
Jim Burrill Jim Burrill is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hatfield, PA, USA
Posts: 429
Default usable track jack

On ebay now
Military Tank Track Track Jack Track Fixture 12252120

5163_35.JPG

Pic of the more modern Track jack on ebay for buy it now of $59.50.

When I bought one for my first carrier it was $25.oo

Anyway, if you get one of these, You will need to grind the horns to fit in the carrier track. If you don't, you will have the track together and pinned and then not be able to drop the jack away from it.

Speaking from experience!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-09-14, 01:42
rob love rob love is online now
carrier mech
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Posts: 7,521
Default

I'll second Jim's recommendation for a track jack. If you want a carrier jack, then you have to find an original or at the very least one of the T16 jacks. But if you actually want to join track effectively without worrying about breaking your priceless original, then get one of the APC jacks.

There were two sizes of them in Canada, so watch which one you buy. The regular APC ones are best. There are larger ones for the M109 which may be a bit too cumbersome for the carriers.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-09-14, 01:33
jeff davis's Avatar
jeff davis jeff davis is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: maple ridge b.c
Posts: 537
Default Track Jack

Found a civy Jack for 10 bucks and welded on 1/2 x 3/4 flat bar seems to work good. picked the jack up cheep as it was missing the bar and jack plate
Jeff
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 31-10-14, 19:22
lssah2025's Avatar
lssah2025 lssah2025 is offline
Driver Advance!
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis, Mo, and OCONUS
Posts: 485
Default

Wow the final auction price on that jack..

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/WWII-Track-Ja.../231346760446?
__________________
39 Austin 8 Tourer
42 Humber Heavy Utility
42 C15A Wireless Truck
43 Humber AC MK IV F133744 "Vandal" tri-owner
43 A27L Centaur MK III T185481
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 31-10-14, 20:44
rob love rob love is online now
carrier mech
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Posts: 7,521
Default

That was a "buy it now" as opposed to an auction. Works out to over $1200 Cdn. incredible, but I am thinking someone with more money than time decided to just pay the price.

Small wonder we don't have a lot of young people jumping into the hobby. It is getting to the point where you need to have your mortgage gone first before you can afford things.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 31-10-14, 20:56
B. Harris B. Harris is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 408
Default

Humph.....
Who's looking for a jack?
I have a spare, but needing a rad socket and cash for trade...STILL.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 31-10-14, 21:27
kevin powles's Avatar
kevin powles kevin powles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 1,960
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Harris View Post
Humph.....
Who's looking for a jack?
I have a spare, but needing a rad socket and cash for trade...STILL.
Bruce, How much cash plus jack are you going to give me for a rad socket?.

Kevin.
__________________
2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008.
3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trolley Jacks and bottle Jacks - Australia Lionelgee The Restoration Forum 6 26-07-13 08:37
new track ron The Carrier Forum 15 07-01-08 23:45
Jacks BIG MIKE The Carrier Forum 2 13-12-05 23:39
New track? Barry Read The Carrier Forum 5 06-07-04 00:06
UC Track jbledsoe The Restoration Forum 7 06-10-03 20:18


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 21:14.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016