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Old 25-06-20, 23:18
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I was driving north bound this afternoon near North Bay and spotted an equipment float headed south towards Toronto.
He was carrying a tank, unfortunately speed and traffic didn’t allow me time enough to identify it.
What was odd was that it was painted a light colour, perhaps sand or desert yellow.
It was odd, maybe a Vickers or maybe even a Valentine not sure .
Do any of our connected gurus know what I spotted and where it was headed?
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Old 26-06-20, 01:42
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Chris,

What you spotted is an Italian M13/40 or M14/41 enroute from Wainwright to Borden.

Various sources identify it as either an M13/40 or M14/41. I am currently inclined to believe that it is most likely an M14/41, and will work to confirm the proper identification.

Some images of it can be found at this link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bdt/13...n/photostream/

It has been on loan to Wainwright since the ‘80s.

The float is currently parked at Base Transport in Borden, and the tank will be unloaded at the museum tomorrow morning.

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Old 26-06-20, 01:59
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Colin, Bingo.
At least it makes me feel better that I’m not delusional, yet Lol.
I’m pretty adept at identifying green beasties but always a challenge especially with only a few second snap shot to make a proper ID. That’s my excuse anyways.
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1966 M274A2 Mule BMY USMC
1958 M274 Mule Willys US Army
1970 M38A1 CDN3 70-08715 1 CSR
1981 MANAC 3/4T CDN trailer
1943 Converto Airborne Trailer
1983 M1009 CUCV

RT-524, PRC-77s,
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Old 26-06-20, 03:00
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I heard that Wainwright had dropped an MLVW engine and transmission into a small tank some years back. Was it this tank?
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Old 26-06-20, 03:20
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Rob,

I was surprised on Tuesday when I was told that the vehicle had been driven onto the float (we assumed that it had remained on static outdoor display). I am now aware that it was re-engined with an MLVW engine but I won’t know any other details until the morning.

Colin
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Old 26-06-20, 03:38
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Colin, Bingo.
At least it makes me feel better that I’m not delusional, yet Lol.
I’m pretty adept at identifying green beasties but always a challenge especially with only a few second snap shot to make a proper ID. That’s my excuse anyways.
OK, some WW2 flash card recognition refresher training for you boyo...
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Old 26-06-20, 11:31
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Chris,
Various sources identify it as either an M13/40 or M14/41. I am currently inclined to believe that it is most likely an M14/41, and will work to confirm the proper identification.
The sign in one of the Flickr photos you linked to says “M13/40”, but we all know how accurate those can be And it’s an M 14-41: it has full-length mudguards and mud scrapers by the drive sprockets.
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Old 26-06-20, 15:11
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Here is a photograph of the Italian M14/41 I took while on Exercise RV89 at CFB Wainwright back in 1989.

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Old 26-06-20, 15:52
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Anyone know the history of this tank? Italian war trophies in Canada must be very few and far between.

David
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Old 26-06-20, 16:54
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Sadly in true Canadian fashion, parking this vehicle outside for 60+ years has trumped any history it might have had. Frankly, I am surprised it has not been traded away by DND to another country who actually cares as I doubt it means much to anyone beyond being just another gate guadian to paint every couple of years.
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