Ford mod 1940, probably Australian (?) on Eastern Front

[Ivan Podgornov]

Hi,
As I can see this forum covers mainly commonwealth vehicles, so it's may be you can give some advice about origin of this Ford
Basically It's right-hand-drive Ford model 1940,
however it has door with 3 pressed rows (sorry, i don't know official term for these) which is typical for US models 1938/39 and Australian 1940.
As i can see from various restoration articles, door from 1938/39 cab fully fits 1940-42 cabs, so it can be just a result of repair.
On the other hand, i can see such combination of cab & door on Australian-made trucks.

Did anyone except Australian subsidiary produce such combination ?

What i wonder - if it's Australian, how it could appear on Eastern Front (see Soviet ML-20 cannon and C-60 or C-65 tracktor in background) ...

[cliff]

It may be one of the many trucks captured in Greece and Crete. Pity you cannot see the door more clearly as Australian Fords had a 'quarter' vent window in them rather then one piece glass.

[Allan Currey]

Interesting photos Ivan, certainly odd. I agree with Cliff about them quite possibly being captured Australian trucks, with only one small point of difference.
Cliff, almost all of the pictures I have of such Fords in Australian use show them with the wiper mounted below the windscreen. Is there a difference according to where the cabs were made?

Regards,
Allan

[cliff]

Originally Posted by Allan Currey

Cliff, almost all of the pictures I have of such Fords in Australian use show them with the wiper mounted below the windscreen. Is there a difference according to where the cabs were made?

Regards,
Allan

my BOO BOO! I wrote the reply without thinking. Either that or my mind was on the GMC model I am doing at present.

have edited my post

[Ivan Podgornov]

Thanks for the replies, Gents!

So, am I right that such combination of 1940 face and 1938/39 cab was typical for Astralian only ?

What do you think about one illustrated below ?
i don't see if it's rhd or lhd

[Ivan Podgornov]

However ...
There is one more, left-hand, and most-probably dutch (Harley-style wing-lights, but not lamp in headlight stand)

It's not a just door replacement, since we can see 3 rows on cab side

[Eduard Sorokin]

Originally Posted by Ivan Podgornov

What do you think about one illustrated below ?
i don't see if it's rhd or lhd

This truck have right hand drive obviously - note the driver's hand on steering wheel in cabin. And it's wide tyres are typical for Allied non-US Ford trucks.

[motto]

Originally Posted by Allan Currey

Interesting photos Ivan, certainly odd. I agree with Cliff about them quite possibly being captured Australian trucks, with only one small point of difference.
Cliff, almost all of the pictures I have of such Fords in Australian use show them with the wiper mounted below the windscreen. Is there a difference according to where the cabs were made?

Regards,
Allan

Hi guys,
I don't follow the discussion, the trucks in Ivan's photos have the wiper mounted below the windscreen. Where's the BOO BOO?
Ivan, the three pressings below the side window and across the back of the cab are usually referred to as ribs i.e. three ribs. The location of the ribs is often referred to as being the belt line.

David

[Mike Cecil]

Those tyres look like 10:50x18's to me... very much an Australian Army requirement.

Agree about the probable source, too: quite likely one of the 2,000 odd vehicles supplied from Australia that were written off as 'lost in Greece'. A proportion were no doubt salvageable or left in more or less working order. There was a reluctance to set fire to vehicles in the latter stages of the retreat as this aided the enemy in spotting concentrations of troops heading to the evacuation beaches, so many were simply smashed up as best they could with whatever tools were available.

Mike C