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Re: Morris again
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While we're on CS8 trucks, that young Rory Ballard has just bought this. . . . . . . . . R. Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 20-05-12 at 21:24. |
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Just to let loose another snippet and start a stampede of people frantically scratching about by the front, left dumb-iron; early CS8's have the Z number stamped in the chassis.
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Nice to have the original WD tax disc holder and its disc too!!
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Richard PS just seen previous post re. tax disc, beat me too it |
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The CS8 came from a friend locally who is now too ill to drive and wanted it to go to a good MCC home. In fact has not been used since Rory last used it as the hearse for his elder brother's funeral some years ago, the occasion before I knew them and I chased it for a few miles to speak to the driver having seen it whizz past my front window in Shirrell Heath several times. Having stopped at a traffic light and spoken with Rory he said he call round later as he was going to a funeral; somewhat strange I thought in a CS8, jeans and a Led Zeppelin T shirt. Beats the hell out of top hats and black Rollers though and hugely cheaper, I approve; hopefully "you" can use my 623, no struggling with heavy boxes - use the Atlas. Rory may sell it yet though, he realises there are almost too many MCs in Nightingale Crescent and although being in good order, it is an older restoration and you know as well as I, they'd have it apart and start again from the mud up and that's a 3K GBP job on the engine alone. Then there's my blasting bill for the metalwork. . . . . . . . . . As Richard F has recorded, the retention of the original pre-war civvy/army registration number is rather nice and the correct, early tax disc tops it off. I think he should keep it; now if only we could find one of those MCC 6x4 staff cars. . . . . . . . . . . R. |
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Rego
The FMX series, i.e. Middlesex County Council, would appear to date to 1937. I know the WD were allocated number batches and this could be outside the civilian series, but could it be an early C.S.8...model C.S.8T??? I canot decipher the Census number. Combination of myopia and astigmatism. Obviously given the number we can not only confirm the contract number buit, armed with that info, ask Mr David Fletcher at Bovington to look up the contract card and find the date of the contract, delivery dates and prices.
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Both the Ballards have made long visits to Kew and the IWM archives and extracted a mass of data on the MC PU especially, but not for CS8s; perhaps I can cajole them to repeat the exercise. However, as you probably know only too well, this work is extremely time consuming and expensive for a private person without the wherewithall to spend weeks of consecutive days trawling the archives. Gaydon also can turn up some gems of factory and production data I believe, but its the usual painstaking job. R. |
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Army Museum
It has been suggested that the old Beverley records were handed to the Army Museum. I found some excellent records relating to Rootes' wartime production in the Museum of British Road Transport, Coventry. I believe that there are some Morris records in trhe MRC at Warwick University but I am out of touch.
In addition there are papers and photos relating to airborne MCC, CMP etc. trucks in the Airborne Forces Museum in Aldershot. Their collection is extensive and would take days to go through all those filing cabinets. Alan Brown Last edited by David_Hayward (RIP); 20-04-05 at 20:47. |
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Harry Edwards is the Morris historian of course, but his data on the military types is limited, in many instances the few (possibly two) really interested private individuals have a greater depth of info especially on certain types. R. |
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MCC
See the letter in HERITAGE COMMERCIALS January 2004 if you can get hold of a copy. If not it states that Gaydon were charging for old MCC photos that apparently they claim the rights to. Hence problems with any future books on MCC vehicles. The december 2003 and January 2004 issues had several photos etc. on the MCC D 6 x 4 and a few derivatives.
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And, what about the other restoration piccies? Re-ground/hardened propshaft spiders, hand made UJ bushes, hand made leather axle gaiters, turned and re-bushed axle support tube, new and bespoke axle friction damper discs? Call Birmingham 8 for R. Ballard. . . . . . : R. |
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rear axles rear axles on frame front view of chassis last one for now, an absolute first class nut ´n bolt restoration! |
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C.S.8T photo
May I ask if I could 'purchase' a copy of the MCC C.S.8T Mk III photo please for a future VINTAGE ROADSCENE issue? Any other period pre-war MCC photos are most welcome please!
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Not a huge drive from West Wellow either, then of course his Ol' Man has a load of stuff on the F15 Polsten too. R. |
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Contact made, and 2-way exchange to follow!
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CS8?
I am hunting for MCC 1936-7 4-wheeler photos. I came across this15-cwt photo from November 1939..is it a CS8 please?
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We'll have to wait for whichever is the sooner: A. Young Ballard gets up here for a look-see or B. He gets his computer (!!!!!!!!!) on-line. I'd suggest A. might be the quickest. R. |
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Photos
I have written to Mr R Ballard asking if he has any photos of the following 1936-era WD MCC trucks:
C.2 [the dual-control driver trainer] C.S. 10/80 C.S. 14/80 C.S. 11/30 If anyone can oblige as well, they get a free VRS mag! The wireless truck on Salisbury Plain looks as though it either has a KHX 760 or KMX 760 rego...either September 1938 onwards or July 1939 onwards respectively. Last edited by David_Hayward (RIP); 31-08-05 at 23:08. |
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Another with Camerons + Bren
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This and all CS9's have the rarity value of a Quagga, unless someone knows differently. . . . . . . . . . . . . R. |
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C.S. 9?
The armoured W/T may be:
L 393105 to 393110 to Contract V3068, Lorry 30-cwt Armd. Command so not many built!!! Is THIS a C.S.9 then? Source: BMIHT, Gaydon. I have found L 384486 to V3098 'Lorry Armd. Experimental'. Also 3810933 to 3810937 to V3246, 'Car Armd. Mk. 1'. However the photo does look different to these tired eyes than the series-production C.S.9 Armoured Cars and invite comments as to whether it is the prototype? Last edited by David_Hayward (RIP); 05-09-05 at 23:13. |
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Bovington pre-war albums
David Fletcher has sent me some thumbnails of pre-war album photos and there are some real gems in there! There are several MCC trucks and lorries including C.S.8T G/S, and C.S.8T Cavalry Portee body and what appears to be a CDF 3-way Tipping lorry! There are also one or two more unidentifiable MCCs but two photos are captioned: 'MORRIS LORRY C.S.11/40 TIPPING' with soft cab...never heard of a C.S.11/40! and a 'MORRIS LORRY C.S. 11/30', which is the one I was after. There is also a four-canvased door MCC with very high nose, looking like a 6-cylinder engine, 4-wheeler with a 'bussle' at the back...no idea what that is.
I forgot to add that there is a shot of a MCC C.S.8T I think, with a Personnel body with canvas top very similar to that of the early CMP Personnel Carriers! Last edited by David_Hayward (RIP); 10-09-05 at 19:17. |
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