GMH wartime pics

[Mike Kelly]

I've not seen some of these pics previously

https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r.../BRG+213/121/9

Wartime production 1940-43 was 65,148 units, pretty impressive but was that bodies built or vehicles assembled ?

[Tony Smith]

What engine do we have here? 6 cyl flathead?

https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/37B

(Link allows you to zoom in more)

[Tony Smith]

Poor Harold would never be the same after inhaling paint thinners every day for the duration of the war.

https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/61A

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Love those assembly line pics


https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/36B


https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/40B

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Love those assembly line pics

Attachment 107382
https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/40B

Great pics of C60L w/winch assembled for the RAAF, but some of the detail raise questions.

That picture and another, https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/40A, show chalk marks on the vehicles.

One picture shows "Dunlop" written on a front wheel. For Australians, this would at first glance appear to be a well know tyre manufacturer. However, it also shows up on the fuel tank, and Dunlop were not known to be sheet metal fabricators or fuel tank makers. Perhaps it is the name of a quality control inspector, odd that his name is "writ large", rather than a discreet initial or tick.

[Mike Kelly]

Somebody was asking about 10 stud wheels on another thread. Well here is proof GMH made them.

https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/69B

I also spotted the flat head engine . Might be a Inter or Dodge engine , GMH were reconditioning Inters for the army as well as cough cough Ford engines

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

Great pics of C60L w/winch assembled for the RAAF, but some of the detail raise questions.

That picture and another, https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/40A, show chalk marks on the vehicles.

One picture shows "Dunlop" written on a front wheel. For Australians, this would at first glance appear to be a well know tyre manufacturer. However, it also shows up on the fuel tank, and Dunlop were not known to be sheet metal fabricators or fuel tank makers. Perhaps it is the name of a quality control inspector, odd that his name is "writ large", rather than a discreet initial or tick.

My guess would be that it a quick visual guide to the wheel or tyre fitting operator down the assembly line to fit that vehicle with Dunlop shod wheels as oppossed to other types that were also available at the fit point.

[Ilian Filipov]

Nice archive. This picture is damaged or sort of, it refuses to download proper (here at least!), so in case somebody has the same problem and wants it, here it is:

https://i.postimg.cc/fTvqQBd4/Austra...an-trailer.jpg

Cheers!

[motto]

The flat head engines in post 2 are Dodge.
Going by the transfer case lever alongside the handbrake lever they are Weapons carrier engines but not T214 3/4 ton.
I am unfamiliar with the 1/2 ton power plant but they had the pedal/s mounted off the engine as these do.

David

[Lynn Eades]

David, they look like WC 3/4 ton power units to me...............
It has the early draft tube breather. They only has the clutch pedal mounted on the power unit. The brake pedal mounts on a chassis casting.

Looking at the airborne Jeep, I often wonder how many died or were maimed for life from vehicle testing?

[motto]

Of course you are right Lynn, the clutch pedal mounting is bolted to the bell housing. I've always assembled the pedal set up after the engine has been installed due to the cab already being in situ.
The air cleaner appeared to be standing too high as well but looking at the real thing that is how they are.
The louvered air cleaner and the small universal on the jack shaft would indicate early T214 3/4 ton.
Cheers
David

[Mike Kelly]

Originally Posted by Tony Smith

Poor Harold would never be the same after inhaling paint thinners every day for the duration of the war.

https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r...+213/121/9/61A

You wonder if the front axle housing survived the thump in a useable condition . Andy Watson, the former Jeep mechanic at Stokoe Motors, told me that 9 out of 10 WW2 Jeep front axle housings he had checked for straightness, were bent to some degree. Andy was a clever mechanic and he knew most of the Jeep part numbers from memory. Andy converted a Austin A40 ute into 4x4 by using Jeep components, even fabricating a special front axle housing using Austin and Jeep parts .

[Mike Cecil]

Dodge power units in a GMH plant: GMH were awarded contracts to assemble, paint and test CKD and SKD vehicles for the Australian forces which included Dodge and jeep, among others.

Mike

[gjamo]

https://www.hrc.org.au/94

[Barry Churcher]

Thanks for that link Graeme. I just spent two hours going through it. I found it interesting about the production issues with the Aussie Mosquitoes and then saw there were quality control issues with the Canadian ones. As I looked at one photo on the site I thought "I have one of those". Then I noticed I got credit for the photo. Neat! You could spend all day following some of the links.

Cheers,
Barry

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Barry Churcher

As I looked at one photo on the site I thought "I have one of those". Then I noticed I got credit for the photo. Neat!

Cheers,
Barry

You and me both! Some of my pictures have been used to illustrate C216 and C219 Bofors Ammo boxes, but the credit goes to MLU.

[Mike Cecil]

At least someone/something was credited, Tony!

I have had a number of images used without my knowledge or permission. The most recent was a particular image involving a view of the driver's hatch of an M1 Abrams which was lifted from my website and posted on both a Facebook page and a private blog: no credit, no asking, no thank you.

Seems that kind of thievery is just accepted on the WWW these days.

Mike

[gjamo]

Gentlemen if anyone is offended or think their copyright has been breached let me know and I will ask the author to address it. Just be aware that tracing the ownership of these images through the MLU site was difficult for him.

[Mike Kelly]

Originally Posted by gjamo

https://www.hrc.org.au/94

Thanks for pointing us to that site ! The site is a compilation from different sources.

He states that Chev , Ford and Studebaker wheels and chassis components were interchangeable ? Hmmm
"
"Manufacturers such as GM, Ford, and even Studebaker could swap chassis, wheels and many other components to suit initial build
component availability"

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by gjamo

Gentlemen, if anyone is offended ...

Not at all.

I am happy to see a website that is contributing to discussion and documenting something, and if my pictures help that discussion, well and good. In fact, for "Fair Use" in discussions, I have probably been guilty of the same thing. A picture says a thousand words, and it saves me typing! I am happy too for the credit to go to MLU, if it was Photobucket et al, they would claim ownership and copyright of the image in any case!

I would have an issue if it was a commercial website promoting a product, or a seller on e-bay using my pictures to (mis)represent an item they are selling.

gjamo, IF however, you are in the mood to contact the website, you could tell them that while the accepted abbreviation for pound is "lb", the nomeclature for Artillery pieces is customarily shown as "Pdr", ie 2Pdr, 6Pdr, 25Pdr, etc. That is well documented with the wartime GMH publications, but a few of the more modern articles by current authors have fallen foul with a couple of 25lbers, 6lbers. Small bikkies in an otherwise great resource on GM-H production.