MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > 'B' ECHELON > The Sergeants' Mess

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 27-12-16, 20:12
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default 2017 New Years Challenge

Hi All

To mark the New Year would like to again issue the following Challenge How Many CMPs Can We Take For A Drive On January 1st 2017?

Who will be the first to post a picture or video of their drive? Who will be the last? Good way to start the year. Extra points for highest and lowest temperature, deepest snow etc.

Cheers and Happy New Year to everyone.

Last year I made the same Challenge (which Hanno recently reminded me of) there were many interesting responses last year.

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28-12-16, 06:04
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Macleod, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 8,216
Default 2017 ny

Somehow I don't think we'll win the deepest snow challenge.
__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 28-12-16, 06:15
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Keith, you could probably do first again?, which would be a double. ....and warmest.
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 29-12-16, 04:38
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default Will darn well try.......

Two licensed vehicles ...maybe a third one........ much of our snow has been compacted by freezing rain and crusted..... it may be a challenge to cross the back field but will darn well try....... already given up being first as the Aussies will be there first even if they sleep in.......

How much snow you got Phil????

Bob C
__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 29-12-16, 05:23
Robert Bergeron's Avatar
Robert Bergeron Robert Bergeron is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Central Canada
Posts: 1,483
Default

Challenge accepted Phil ! It will be either. F15A GS or a Chev C-15A Wire 5 depending on wich one starts ... 1 foot of snow forecasted around here for the next few days ..


__________________
44 GPW / 44 C-15-A Cab 13 Wireless 5 with 2K1 box X 2 /
44 U.C. No-2 MKII* /
10 Cwt Cdn Brantford Coach & Body trailer X 2 /
94 LSVW
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 29-12-16, 14:40
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default No snow now later today?

Hi Bob

Right now the ground is basically bare, some ice, but in about 3 hours a snow storm is supposed start and dump 12 to 18 inches of heavy wet snow on us.

If I don't plow with the storm may have to take BEAUTY my C60S out to break trail so the pickup plow can make it out the drive.

Will post pictures.

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 29-12-16, 20:26
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Macleod, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 8,216
Default First?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn Eades View Post
Keith, you could probably do first again?, which would be a double. ....and warmest.
Not possible for me this year as I'll be away but you Kiwis are a couple of hours ahead of us so go for it!
__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30-12-16, 14:19
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default The Challenge is how many world wide.

Hi Guys

Remember the challenge is about How Many of us will start our New Year by driving our CMPs and other MVs on the first day of the Year.

We did get the snow storm yesterday, but only 6 inchs, so my drive should be pretty but not a snow record challenge. Batteries charged, and the two trucks in cold storage, sitting in Temps ranging from -4 F to 40 F during the month of December, both started with out hesitation.

Happy New Year

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-01-17, 15:49
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default Will have to take a mulligan on doing drive on New Years Day

Hi All

I'm going to delay my first drive of year, to later in the week. Spent the night in ER with suspected Heart Attack, wasn't, but confirming that took all night.

Still looking forward to hearing how many and where people got take a drive.

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-01-17, 16:17
Grant Bowker Grant Bowker is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,285
Default

Mulligan granted. Look after yourself Phil.
I'm working today but suspect someone from Hammond will be driving soon and surprised nobody from New Zealand, Australia or Europe has claimed first honours yet .
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-01-17, 21:39
Keith Webb's Avatar
Keith Webb Keith Webb is offline
Film maker, CMP addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Macleod, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 8,216
Default No!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Waterman View Post
Hi All

I'm going to delay my first drive of year, to later in the week. Spent the night in ER with suspected Heart Attack, wasn't, but confirming that took all night.

Still looking forward to hearing how many and where people got take a drive.

Cheers Phil
Very sorry to hear about this Phil, let's hope whatever it was you recover quickly and there's no repeat performance!
__________________
Film maker

42 FGT No8 (Aust) remains
42 FGT No9 (Aust)
42 F15
Keith Webb
Macleod, Victoria Australia
Also Canadian Military Pattern Vehicles group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/canadianmilitarypattern
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-01-17, 22:34
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Hi Phil, I have the same sentiments as Keith. Take care.
Lynn.
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-01-17, 22:35
Little Jo's Avatar
Little Jo Little Jo is offline
Tony VAN RHODA
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Strathalbyn South Australia
Posts: 877
Default Good news

Hi Phil

I am so relieved that you are OK. Not the best start for 2017 but a good result in the end. I am sure you will be back driving soon.

Best wishes

Tony
__________________
Anthony (Tony) VAN RHODA.
Strathalbyn. South Australia
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-01-17, 23:27
RHClarke's Avatar
RHClarke RHClarke is offline
Mr. HUP
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ottawa Area
Posts: 2,325
Default Challenge Accepted

Phil: I echo Grant's sentiment - please take care of yourself first. The trucks can wait.

As for Hammond activity on New Years Day, there was a lot of wheel spinning - Bob will elaborate. Early bed for me...
__________________
RHC
Why is it that when you have the $$, you don't have the time, and when you have the time you don't have the $$?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-01-17, 23:31
Robert Bergeron's Avatar
Robert Bergeron Robert Bergeron is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Central Canada
Posts: 1,483
Default

Get well friend .Tried to go for a ride but the snow was too deep. My snow removal contractor took the day off and i don't blame him for it . Happy New Year .
__________________
44 GPW / 44 C-15-A Cab 13 Wireless 5 with 2K1 box X 2 /
44 U.C. No-2 MKII* /
10 Cwt Cdn Brantford Coach & Body trailer X 2 /
94 LSVW
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-01-17, 00:24
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,670
Default

Definately not what I was expecting when opening this thread.

Take care Phil and get well soon!

Alex
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-01-17, 06:52
r.morrison r.morrison is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: vancouver b.c.
Posts: 815
Default Ouch!

Hey Phil: We didn't need this, to start the year off. BUGGER! You take care of yourself and ease up and for God's sake no snow shovelling!!! I will send you down a book to read while you're on the mend. It's about that other guy with a radio recording HUP....Matthew Halton, CBC News. Fascinating story. Spoke with his nephew just the other night. You take care and we all look forward to hearing from you. Robert
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-01-17, 19:24
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default So sorry to hear about Phil......

Yes there is a Santa Clause....

.......and the trucks did go out in Hammond.....

......................turned out to be the New Year s(tr)uck event.

Pictures to follow..... need time to sort them out.....

Of much more concern is Phil's little demise.......

......glad it was a near miss...... and that it will scare the sh*t out of you to be careful......... Margaret better take care of you and hid the keys to the barn!!!!

Cheers

PS ,,,,, my wife took about 400 pictures in quick burst.......phew!!
__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-01-17, 06:16
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default The New Year Truck Challenge 2017.......

This one is dedicated to Phil.........

First of all basic facts...... Sunny and a pleasant -6 C....slight breeze...time noon when we started..... dark when it ended.

About 36 inches of snow on the ground some compasted and some ice crust about midway.

Walking you never sink to the bottom ( whcih by the way the ground is not yet fully frozen) but your tires will dig down to the wet turf then the bottom floats.
Yes a CMP can float on snow and loose all traction.

The day then turned to New Years Sucks......

The Hup would not fire up..... we tried and tried and towed it on the street where the pavement was bare for better traction.....cough and cough but wuld not start.....

Plan "B"....get the M 37 going..... and we did.

For the photos we went to the larger back field were no one in is right mind would drive....

NOTE....... when the photographer waves to stop.....don't
once you loose your momentum you are dead...

More to come
Attached Thumbnails
111DSC_7873.jpg   112DSC_7875.jpg   110DSC_7922.jpg   109DSC_7969.jpg   102DSC_7783.jpg  

__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-01-17, 06:23
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default More pics.....

My truck was driven in low range and second gear to break the trail then 3 rd for more speed...... flat out in both gears. .... at times the truck decides which rut it wants to follow...... and do not leave your thumbs inside the steering wheel spokes....

Now I know what the shovel is for on a CMP.....

Amazing the amount of snow pushed by the front suspension.
Attached Thumbnails
103DSC_7822.jpg   104DSC_7880.jpg   301DSC_8078.jpg  
__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 03-01-17, 06:28
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default Not to be outdone.....

Cavalry to the rescue.............

The Dodge seemed to have a slight advantage in the deep snow with the 9x16 bar thread compared to the wide 10:50x16.

It has all to do with momentum once you get rolling don't stop or turn too sharply or you are stuck.

All in all it was a fun day.

I also have a bunch of short videos that I need to learn how to stitch together for posting.... so more later.
Attached Thumbnails
201DSC_8018.jpg   202DSC_8048.jpg   203DSC_8076.jpg   120textxDSC_8002.jpg  
__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada

Last edited by Bob Carriere; 03-01-17 at 17:38.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-01-17, 06:39
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default Later on back at the barn.....

It took me over half an hour to blow ( with the air compressor) the packed snow from underneath the truck. It seems that once the axles and brake drums get warm they collect snow which quickly freezes on the surface.

We push the Hup back in its coccoon for later consideration ...stored the Dodge and my cab 11 until the next escapade.....then generally cleaned up the snow until dark.

Looking forward to next year .... but I may cheat and install the spare set of 9x16 Michelin block threads....... and maybe like Bob B use chains on all four wheels....

Cheers
__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 03-01-17, 15:53
RHClarke's Avatar
RHClarke RHClarke is offline
Mr. HUP
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Ottawa Area
Posts: 2,325
Default That's The Way to Start the New Year!

It was a great day in Hammond! Despite the HUP refusing to start, it all worked out in the end. The M37 ran like a dream in the deep snow - unlike driving in sand, I found that increasing the tire pressure (50 pounds) makes running in the snow easier.

Bob, please thank Joyce for taking these great photos! Let's plan a drive at -20, -30 and if possible -40oC.
__________________
RHC
Why is it that when you have the $$, you don't have the time, and when you have the time you don't have the $$?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 03-01-17, 16:42
Wayne Hingley's Avatar
Wayne Hingley Wayne Hingley is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Water Valley, Alberta
Posts: 733
Default

Nice photos guys! Its great to see the trucks (and Hammond pit crew) getting some laps around the field. Looks like fun!
__________________
1953 M37 CDN
1953 M38A1 CDN
1967 M38A1 CDN2
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 03-01-17, 20:46
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,670
Default

Thanks for sharing these pics guys! The C15A....awesome. A pity the HUP was being stubborn and didn't want to perform in these kind of conditions, but it's good to see the M37 was there to complete the show.

Quote:
Looking forward to next year .... but I may cheat and install the spare set of 9x16 Michelin block threads
Bob, do you think swapping over the wheels and reversing the chevron would make any difference? No more Mythbusters on TV, so I guess you have to try.....

Alex
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 04-01-17, 03:29
Bob Carriere Bob Carriere is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hammond, Ontario
Posts: 5,191
Default I have my doubts.....

,,,,when I got stuck I tried forward and backwards trying to rock it free.....so Chevron were coming and going and made only things worst by sinking deeper.

I believe that a narrow tire such as the 9x16 michelin with the NATO block pattern would be slightly better...... but chains are the way to go if things really get bad........ my 7000 pounds Massey tractor would be useless with out the chains on the rear wheels.

...... for the interested....... everything is coated with ice today......freezing rain.... getting power outages every hour or so for a few minutes...... typing this in between power blips..... not a day for even a CMP to venture outside.

Cheers





Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering View Post
Thanks for sharing these pics guys! The C15A....awesome. A pity the HUP was being stubborn and didn't want to perform in these kind of conditions, but it's good to see the M37 was there to complete the show.



Bob, do you think swapping over the wheels and reversing the chevron would make any difference? No more Mythbusters on TV, so I guess you have to try.....

Alex
__________________
Bob Carriere....B.T.B
C15a Cab 11
Hammond, Ontario
Canada
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 04-01-17, 23:44
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,670
Default

Quote:
when I got stuck I tried forward and backwards trying to rock it free.....so Chevron were coming and going and made only things worst by sinking deeper.
hmm...reversing the truck is indeed an easy way to test the direction of the chevrons....why didn't I think of that .

Yes, I can imagine chains are the way to go.

Alex

p.s. only some rain and hail here in Holland....haven't seen any snow here so far.
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-01-17, 03:44
Terry Witiuk Terry Witiuk is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Mississauga, Ontario Canada
Posts: 265
Default First MV drive of the year...2017 New Years Challenge.

First MV drive of the year...January 2nd...45 minutes or so....no snow, bare roads...cold but not too bad...not in a CMP but in my cherished Ferret. No better way to help start the New Year.
Cheers, Terry.
__________________
Cheers, Terry Witiuk
1942 White M3A1 Scout Car
1944/45 BSA WM20
1943 GM HUA (Project)
1962 Daimler Ferret (Sold)
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-01-17, 14:00
Robert Bergeron's Avatar
Robert Bergeron Robert Bergeron is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: East Central Canada
Posts: 1,483
Default

Chains are indeed the way to go in the snow with these beauties ! Great show Bob C. ! Beautifull C-15 , absolutely marvelous .
__________________
44 GPW / 44 C-15-A Cab 13 Wireless 5 with 2K1 box X 2 /
44 U.C. No-2 MKII* /
10 Cwt Cdn Brantford Coach & Body trailer X 2 /
94 LSVW
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-01-17, 01:05
Chris Suslowicz Chris Suslowicz is offline
Junior Password Gnome
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: England
Posts: 814
Default

I would just like to say (speaking as a non-driver from the effete end of England), that you are all Completely Mad.

(Not only that but you use a temperature scale that gives you a standing start.)

Around here everything seems to grind to a halt at the first sighting of snow, and you lot are apparently seriously considering going for a drive when the temperature scales coincide (-40)!

I take my hat off to the lot of you, but will definitely stay indoors (and possibly turn the heating up a bit, just thinking about it).

Wishing you all a (somewhat belated) happy and prosperous New Year.



Chris.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bivouac 2017 Odessa, Kingston, ON- Good News! david moore Military Shows & Events 14 23-06-17 16:11
2017 Annual Corowa Swim-In & Military Vehicle Gathering Richard Farrant COROWA - THE EVENT 30 15-05-17 10:34
Convoy to the 2017 PVPA Convention Les Fisher Ontario Military Vehicle Association News 3 19-09-16 06:11
2017 Bren Gun Carrier gathering at the KVE Corowa event Darrin Wright COROWA - THE EVENT 0 08-04-16 11:02
New Years 2016 and 2017 Challenge Phil Waterman The Sergeants' Mess 27 04-01-16 02:43


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 01:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016