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UC MK.II* Canadian armor thread
Could somebody tell me which kind of thread are on the Canadian UC Mk.II*? UNC, UNF, BSW, BSF?
Now I would like know the thread on the front armor. Thanks
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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Thread on the armour ? What is threaded ?
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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On both the mk1 and mk2 Canadian, the hull and accessories are all BSF. The engine and transmission (and likely the rear axle housing) are north american threads (UNC or UNF). The 4 bolts holding the upper angle over the radiator/division plate could be either BSF or UNF.
The only threads on the front armour that I can think of are the window mechanisms and perhaps the cover over the gunners port. They will all be BSF. |
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UC thread
maybe wrong question.
Are on gunners plate the dimensions in red circle threads? If yes, which one?
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... Last edited by Radek; 21-12-14 at 21:59. |
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The bottom marked item.... Is that not a raised peg to stop the folding armour travelling too far ?
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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I have started with thiw piace
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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According to the parts manual, everything in that area is BSF.
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I agree that they are BSF. The stop peg still has a BSF thread
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Many thanks for info. Now I have finished the scretch for this gunner plate. The athers will be continue.
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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Something not right.
Sorry to be Picky here...and don't wish to be confrontational.......your asking for measurements and details off people here at MLU but you appear to have deliberately masked out your measurements on the drawing so others cannot benefit..... Seems a bit off.
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Here are everybody helpfull with all, exchanging experiences, spare parts etc., but no with measures of the front armor. :-(
I am so sorry for the masked measures. But everytime when I asked for any measures, nobody help me. :-( Everybody would like payment for this. :-( I know it takes any time for making drawings and take measures, I know it wery well. :-D Only one friend help me with, for me missing, measures. I can show all my work, but why with this experience. :-( I would like say thank you to everybody who is so kind and can help.
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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Happy to have been of some help. Invoice to follow.
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radek that is not how things are done, you are not a dealer, most of us are not dealers, why would you not try to help out and contribute to the other guys on the forum. that's what it's all about or am I singing off the wrong song sheet !
regards rick
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_______________________ 1941 mk1 mortar Carrier 1941 Mk1* Carrier 1942 Mk1* Carrier 1943 T16 Carrier 1945 Mk3 Dingo 1941 Mk3 Covenanter 1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold) 1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold) 1952 Mk3 Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking) |
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UC MkII* front armor
o.k. guys not problem for me show to others resolution of my work ;-)
Iīm curious if somebody help me with the rest plates. Now I will start working scretch for the left gunners plate.
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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UC MkII* gunners plate
1:4
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thanks, we are all in together until the bitter end
rick
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_______________________ 1941 mk1 mortar Carrier 1941 Mk1* Carrier 1942 Mk1* Carrier 1943 T16 Carrier 1945 Mk3 Dingo 1941 Mk3 Covenanter 1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold) 1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold) 1952 Mk3 Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking) |
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right that's better...feel like I am steeling Hanno's Thunder here (he is forum plod)
I can measure my plates but they are mk1 and repro. I am trying to boot up an old PC to get the bulkhead and side armour drawings for a few people... Do you have side armour ?
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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UC MkII* side armor
Richard,
Yes I have cca 97% lenght of side armors and rest measured on another UC.
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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Re: Something not right.
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Let's keep this in the right prespective guys, it's a matter of giving and taking having to be in balance. So Eddy & Richie, take out those measuring tapes and help Radek with his much needed measurements PS: while you are at it, Siemon is in need of some measurements as well Thanks, Hanno
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Like I say mine is repro, and I had no reference when unmade the section but here goes
I have to upload them off site as I am using apple products Like I say could be wrong but I made it work. I still need to put the fillet in on the upright angle bar as you can see it's missing
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Canadian MkII*
Richard,
thanks. That will be helpfull, but I donīt know if is this part the same by MkI and MkII. Could somebody confirm, that the whole on the Richards pictures is only round without thread? Thanks
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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The hole in the front plate should be threaded. The screw has a shoulder on it and this is what the swinging plate pivots off of. The head of the screw is not flush with the front of the swinging plate.
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Is the positioning etc the same between mk1 and mk2 ? Perhaps Jordan could offer his up for measurements ? As stated above mine could be wrong.... That said the swing plate was a direct copy of an original mk1.
I will rebuild the thing tonight..... Busy putting elbows back on conduits that I took off to assist other MLU'ers too ! Busy night ahead for me 😜
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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differences
One more observation!
When I have took dimensions from bouth UC (the serial numbers are clouse to each other), they arenīt exact same.
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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sorry but mine is repro as well, infact the guy that made the swinging plate did an exact copy from his T16, unfortunately they are not the sme size
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_______________________ 1941 mk1 mortar Carrier 1941 Mk1* Carrier 1942 Mk1* Carrier 1943 T16 Carrier 1945 Mk3 Dingo 1941 Mk3 Covenanter 1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold) 1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold) 1952 Mk3 Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1952 ARV Centurion 1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking) |
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UC vs. UC
I am not an expert and no longer in UC problems.
I have recieved informations, we are speaking about nord American carriers, that the Canadian MkI*, Canadian MkII* and US T16 hasnīt the same pattern and dimesions of front armor. The same pattern and same dimensions have ony MkII* and Winsdor.
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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Radek, Firstly "Merry Christmas"
I believe that dimensionally the gunners left plate and right plate are the same in the MkI* and MKII* There are variations with the things that are mounted on those plates (extinguishers etc), but essentially the same across those models.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Gunners left plate
Happy New Year
Here is the half of gunners left plate. Who will give me the rest dimensions?
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____________________________ Austin K30 1940 Austin AP8 1940 Austin 10hp G/YG "Tilly" Royal Enfield WD/CO 1942 British airborne trailer family Austin K2/Y Ambulance 1939 Austin K30 1940 Austin Champ 1954 ... |
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Gunners left plate
Not finished and half missing
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