Canadian dodge ?

[martyn]

Hi a friend has a dodge it has a canadian chassie and been told a american rear body ?
what is the diffrance and has anyone seen a canadian dodge (wc52) used by british units ?

iam not a dodge man myself so i have no idea whats the diffrance between the us dodge 52 and a canadian dodge ?

any help would be good and pickys of poss

cheers martyn

[gordon]

If it looks like a US Weapon Carrier it sounds like your friend has got an APT, a Canadian AirPorTable version of the Weapon Carrier.

It is very similar to a 3/4 ton Weapon Carrier but every bit is just a fraction different. Engine is longer (25") and so on. The APT came with a back body that looked like a Weapon carrier body, but many of them were noticeably narrower, Don't have any pics here.

I think the only adivce I would give is that all the engine parts pretty much just interchange with other Canadian 25" engines, particualrly length-related parts like cam, crank, head and sump gaskets, etc, etc.

It's quite possible somone has found an APT chassis / cab and put a US back body on it, but I believe the very first APTs had the same width body as the US equivalent, which might be confusing. No idea how you would positively identify an original APT rear body, other than the narrowness of the later ones.

There are many other right hand drive Canadian trucks in the T212, T222, and T110L series that a US body could be fitted to, but they would have the very obvious points of right hand drive and civilian type front wings

[martyn]

Hi Gordon

my friend has told me sum more about it now

it came from norway ex army it has had a winch mounted on it and the engine he says has extension brackets bolted to it reach the front mounts here is the numbers he gave me ?

chassie number - 91168940 (1945 )
make - 2205 dodge
model -D3
trype - 4wp/APT
this is all on the id plate he has with it ?
he says the engine and box is out of a M37

[gordon]

At the end of the war ( and the APTs were produced in 44 and 45 ) they started producing exclusively non-winch chassis, and if they needed to fit a winch they just used bolt-on extensions - though they are more often associated with the post WW2 Power Wagon, the WDX.

If the engine is original it will have a T236-xxxx engine code stamp, so get him to check that, a T245 stamp will mean that it is an M37 engine.

They produced two batches, a 5000 off and a 6750 off, total of 11,750, and that chassis number sits almost exactly halfway through the second batch, probably means it should have a 'narrow' rear body on it.

The Norwegian APTs were surplussed first, as the parts dont interchange much with the US ones, and most had done very few miles and were in very good order. I remember two in Bergen that had only done a few hundred miles from new.

[Lynn Eades]

The U.S WC 52 all had an 8 digit serial number with the first 4 digits ranging from;8152xxxx to 8160xxxx I think the rear body was shorter on the Canadian one on the drivers side allowing entry/ exit past the spare wheel.
Did they have a cut out in the bonnet, and an external air cleaner on the APT?
Martyn, I can give you info on the U.S WC52 If you require anything. I have a "37mm Gun motor carriage M6", which is basically the same as the WC52 except that this is 42 production.

[martyn]

Hi Lynn
any help would or info would be good as i know nothing about soft skin stuff lol
i rember when he got it it was painted red and we were told that people painted vehicles red to say they were a new driver in norway lol
fancy one of them as a first car.........

hes had trouble in the past getting parts as gordon says most bits were diffrent hes done the chassie and bulkhead he wants to put the correct engine and box in it and then sort that rear tub out its slow and steady think it will be a good truck when hes done it, only had it 3 years lol may get it finished in about 3 more hahahaha

hes seen my carrier and decided he wants one of them now too
Any help from any one would be greatfully recieved if you have any pickys or info and want to email it direct just pm me and will send you my email

thanks martyn

[Ron Perry]

Martyn.

To see some differences between the US and the Canadian Dodges,
visit my site Wheels of Victory.
go to http://www.wheelsofvictory.com/index8.html

Regards.
Ron Perry
ron@perry.nl

[Ron Perry]

Martyn,Alex,Gordon,Pete,Lynn.

Thank you for your replies and comments concerning my site.

When I will be abel to enter my site again (there are some problems with
my Web Program) I will add your comments to it.

Regards,
Ron Perry
ron@perry.nl