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Old 29-03-21, 18:29
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Rerouted the no 11 coax cable to the right of the No 19 set . Cleaner job .
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Old 05-04-21, 04:42
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Default Remote mast antenna

I was thinking of using a remote antenna mast a little bit away from the truck . Found some literature on the subject and started a thread in the wireless section. Items No 35 & 37 catch my interest : Leads aerial no 3 & No 5 . Any background ,info or advice ?
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Richard who started this thread 6 years ago sent me a gift today . He sent me pictures of the dog house we started with . Look at the wood shavings and bowl for the dog ...
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Old 15-10-21, 21:52
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These 4 holes are in my wireless box and I canít find any references as to what they were for. Any idea? Too low or to high for the table.
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Old 15-10-21, 22:15
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Hmm Iíll have to be careful to post upside right. For reference itís the 4 holes in the tire carrier compartment
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Old 16-10-21, 00:35
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These 4 holes are in my wireless box and I canít find any references as to what they were for. Any idea? Too low or to high for the table.
Weird. They seem to straddle the angle stiffener in the wheel well sheet metal so whatever was there wouldn't sit flat. Are the holes 'factory' and not Bubba? Are they symmetrical? Do other 2K1 bodies have them?
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Old 16-10-21, 04:52
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Weird. They seem to straddle the angle stiffener in the wheel well sheet metal so whatever was there wouldn't sit flat. Are the holes 'factory' and not Bubba? Are they symmetrical? Do other 2K1 bodies have them?
Symetrical and definitly not Bubba.
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Old 16-10-21, 05:26
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Symetrical and definitly not Bubba.
What device or contraption could possibly sit there? Inside a 1" gap before the wireless table, outside, a tire. Speak to me about the flat. Shims to level things out? Do these holes replicate themselves on Mr. Bergeron's or other 2Ks? What is the spacing between the holes?

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Old 16-10-21, 06:43
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What device or contraption could possibly sit there? Inside a 1" gap before the wireless table, outside, a tire. Speak to me about the flat. Shims to level things out? Do these holes replicate themselves on Mr. Bergeron's or other 2Ks? What is the spacing between the holes?

Between you and the mystery holes in Jordan Baker's Otter I'm losing sleep.
I've very carefully examined all the pics on this thread and I don't see anything. My thoughts were maybe a tall thin metal shelf for a map binder ?
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Old 19-10-21, 08:02
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While I've had my C15A wire 5 truck 21 years and have put well over 30,000 kms on it, 2nd motor 2nd transmission 2 and a half sets of tires the box has always been a mock up. A faithful copy of the wire 5 floor as I did have a 2K1 box that i copied but was way too much for my skills back then.
The wood and canvas upper structure was warm and comfortable and many a good sleep was had over the years.
But late last year I finally procured the wire 5 box from Jay Curry and with the help of this forum and it's members I got it shipped out west where I could go pick it up.
I was more than impressed with how good of shape it was in when I got it home in June. Initially I dropped it off at Local western Command stalwarts, John Hawthorne and Jim Watkins place in Abbotsford.
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Old 19-10-21, 08:17
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Out at Jim's place my initial goal was to give it a good cleaning, and do all thev repairs and paint neccasary on the outside front wall so once it was on the truck I wouldn't have to move it to paint it again. I stripped the front down to bare metal, fixed a couple of dents and primed and painted it. In between I removed all the hardware from the roof, fixed the door handle that I broke and gave a very superficial sanding to remove loose flakes and gave the whole truck a coat of paint that is intended to be temporary. Then haveing stripped the tools boxes accesorys and POW racks I drove my truck out and with the assistance of Jim swapped the old box out and stored in his back 40 under wraps and lifted on the body to it's permanent home. and then brought it home as the 60 minute commute was time I could spend working on it at home.
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Old 19-10-21, 08:36
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My initial goal when I got it home was to get into presentable shape for any upcoming drives or events. First thing was to install the tool boxes, POW racks and fill the spare tire carrier. The tool boxes and POW carriers went on as the holes were all exactly the same from my previous box that was copied from the original unit i had before. Interesting to note that all the other references to the jerry can holders and the book drive to victory had the jerry can holders not the POW carriers. The old one I had had both of the crushed POW tin holders still attached and nothing lined up with the jerry can mudflap combinatiuons I had. Interesting difference. Next was the spare tire. I run the 1050 X 16 chevrons and there is no way they fit so looking at a couple of wheels I had I had a decent looking 1941 dated run flat that has been sitting there for 20 years, still had 20 PSI so filled it to 30, cleaned and painted it and with the help of two friends lifted it into place. Close to home it might get me off the road to a safe spot in a crunch.
Then I took lots of pictures trying to document everything and going over this thread and saving tons of pictures.
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Old 19-10-21, 08:50
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so everything came out, everypiece saved for reference and pattern and I set aside two pieces that I thoughtv deserved to be reinstalled with a little TLC. The metal parts went into the pot to be electrolysis cleaned and lots of sanding and prep work to the roof and rusty bits.
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Old 19-10-21, 09:11
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I had Pacific Bending in Maple Ridge bend up the missing roof hardware and I welded them up as close to the originals and trial fitted them. They actually bolt to the frame in the roof and I cleaned up the threads with a thread chaser and two holes had to be expanded from the original 5/16th to 3/8.
Another decision I made was not to drill out the rivets on three sides to peel back the roof to replace the plywood sandwiched under the aluminum roof. the existing plywood was delaminated around the edges but not rotten so I carefully measured and intentionally made a tight fit of 3/4 maple plywood and pressed them into the voids between the roof trusses. They for the most part squeezed into place with the jack as pictured and stayed in place, retaining the curve even.
on the other side, I lack pictures for the start, i cut the 2 inch strips from 1/4 inch maple, stained them, and used much longer 1.25 inch #8's with collars to go through the original holes and into the 3/4 plywood underneath. Being careful to not pull the screws through the 1/4 inch strips on the roof. Just progressed along the roof from front to back. I used Polyurethane to seal the strips to the roof and seal the screw holes. So messy and I dare not grab my phone to take pictures as I recall.
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Old 19-10-21, 09:21
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the roof side was messy but it went along fine, I added the roof hardware and hogged out the chimney and vent holes with an air grinder to break up the task load as the roof progressed. It felt solid and i did a check to see if the roof flexed underneath with my weight on it and surprisingly it didn't move, I'm still a considerable GVW although getting less.
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Next step was to reread all the posts and I picked up on the order of putting the interior back in, start with the roof! The inside ceiling panels were cut and placed and i tried for the original holes in the frame to start but quickly went to self drilling screws to secure the roof panels tight to the roof, had to router a groove for the wires around the powered roof exhaust and to where the switch would end up as there is no longer any void to pass them through, air grinder was used from the top to hog out the chimney and vent holes and trial fit all the vent and chimney hardware. They had beened stripped, primed and painted in the same time period. oh yes, another generous application of Polyurethane. Hint: Zylene cleans it off.
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so, i had thought about this for quite some time so I decided to coat the whole roof with a DIY truck bed liner. I had some experiance with applying truck bed liner to the bed of my 20 cwt trailer and it's been indestructible in that application which was a rustoleum product. This time I went with a spray application called Raptor. It was easy to use and like any new procedure to me I check out the manufacturers video's and Youtubers, gave me the confidence to go for it. Reasonable working time with a bottle, used two bottles for first coat and two for the second coat but hard to gauge coverage with the second coat so I was up there with a powerful flashlight checking out coverage before I popped the last bottle. With all the hardware and traction strips it was what you call a complex surface, a truck bed would be easier. I gave it a full 8 days before I got up on the roof to remove the last of the masking tape. What I failed to mention I jerry rigged up a scaffold all around the truck so I could work from the sides only getting on the roof at the beginning to do the centre few square feet then worked around. This stuff is polyurethane based so it was compatible with all the sealer I used previously and I managed not to make much of a mess with it. The special spray gun was accurate and consistent
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Old 19-10-21, 10:04
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while waiting for the roof to cure I worked on insulating slightly the walls, gluing in a thin layer of insulation, installed the antenna holders on the front of the cab, the canvas tunnel between cab and wireless box and mounted a shovel in the tool holder, no time to waste as if I ever stand around my wife will find me something to do and latley its been all concrete!
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Old 19-10-21, 10:32
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Made up more panels, following and checking both the patterns and measuring as old things tend to shrink(?!) so I measured twice and cut, sometimes twice as well. I scoped out lighting fixtures as the lights and hardware are one of thev few things I managed to salvage from my original wireless box from 18 years ago. Also scoped out all the original holes in the floor and the outline of the shelving unit that lines up with all the measurements from Dave Good and Robert.
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Old 19-10-21, 10:46
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Working into the generator corner i cleaned and painted the fridge fixed a broken hinge on it and get it in but not permanently as I'll take it out to prep it for the generators and seal it properly to the walls. Speaking of the walls I used some fender welting I had on hand as a substitute for the sealing strips on the top edge of the walls.stapeling it from behind. Also the two panels that I decided to save got a new coat of paint in and out and were mounted on the upper corner of the generator area. Also sorted out to a close satisfaction the grill for the chore horse cabinets. I reread some of the posts on this thread and figured out how thay were constructed and how they fit in. Not happy and I may redo them when I pull the Fridge out later.
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Default Lights, Sliding door, Action...?

Once I got all the walls up and started priming and painting I had finished up the lighting and fan wiring, choosing to use the lights out of my old box as I seemed to have more of it and it was a simpler lay out. Another less obvious reason was that this box had a set up that ran a wire up to the front wall and then part way down were it went into a hole in the wall that was a tube inside a frame channel to the underside of the truck. When I screwed the front panels in I failed to notice the factory had carefully screwed their fasteners in on the edge whereas I put them right down the centreline piercing the tube 4 times with my screws rendering it unusable as the screws distorted and blocked it from every attempt to feed a power wire through it. viva la difference as they say... probably not in this context though.
I also finished cleaning up the sliding door to the driver and while I didn't take any pictures I did put a couple of coats of 30478 paint on the roof. Made it to a couple of events with the truck too.
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Old 19-10-21, 11:26
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I cleaned up the black out shields, cleaned and softened the curtains and managed to save three of four curtains, actually I don't have a forth in case anybody has one cluttering their shelf somewhere. just using simple wire tabs for the present as hold open catches and I'm storing them stretched out and closed for the time being. Managed to make a model of the cypher desk before making a full size one and remounting it. Maybe two big but fits me better.
Now I break out the welder and promptly run out of gas, get a refill then run out of wire, I like the drive in my truck every now and then so two trips to the same place across town the same day was relaxing, except the one in the rush hour.
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Read all the details contained in this thread a couple of times and at first I didn't understand the measurements supplied until I understood the shelves were slanted and then everything clicked. Don't weld much so i was actually happy with my performance. Yes the footman loops are on the outside as it was easier to thread install and make the straps, I'll reverse them later next time I'm touching up the paint.
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So with some welding practice under my belt I just kept going and attacked the radio table. Again the drawings and measurements were there and all laid out earlier in this thread so I made note of everything posted and gleaned all the information therein . I made a minibike in grade 8 shop class and after school club so working with tubing brought back some good memories of crashing that thing over and over and one last time....
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a couple of pics of the paint on the roof, showing how i used the bed liner to overlap all the roof fixtures so sealing against the elements and we have elements to seal it from. It was nice if only sitting on the table to have a radio in the truck, feels like a milestone. Hooked up a battery to the lights and fan and the original fan hums away which was an absolute bonus. This rig was a gem and I'm still stoked to have obtained it.
Friends, new and old stop by for visits and give me a chance to exercise my vocal cords and just about anybody is welcome to come on over and brag and swap lies and tall tales.
This is pretty well where I'm at mid October and I have notes pictures and drawings for the next pieces and all of it comes from this forum. I'm not the first to do this but I don't think many people get into projects like this with as much detailed information and references as found on this forum.
Told myself for sometime to sit down and figure out posting pictures but I apologize for all the sideways pictures. I didn't want to muck things up by trying to figure it out, I was on a roll. Momentum management, it's a mantra of mine around these MVs. I'll keep you all posted.
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Old 19-10-21, 20:02
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Thanks for posting the results of the bed liner on the roof. I have been considering this product for a few various van bodies to prevent egress of water.
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Great progress on your truck.

What kind of paint are you using for the white?
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Great progress on your truck.

What kind of paint are you using for the white?
On wood I prime with a bathroom/kitchen mild a mildew proof paint especially on the inside before installing. And then armour coat gloss white. On metal I prime with a self etching spray or tremclad with brush. Finish coat is the same tremclad spray or brush gloss white. Typically Iíll try to hang in front of or point at the fresh paint with a parabolic heater.
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Great thanks. ive got a lot of white painting to do and its not my usual colour.
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Very nice Harry. Great to see the original Wire-5 body married to your truck!
Also well done on the interior and exterior details.
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