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Old 02-09-17, 03:16
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Just got onto this Radio gear through word of mouth in my home town. I am not a radio person but felt that this is to good to let go to the tip so I am now the new owner.

I will upload a series of photos.

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Old 02-09-17, 03:34
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The last of it......

If anybody is interested in any of this kit PM me.

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Old 02-09-17, 12:13
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Well Chris, when I visited the dark depths of the shed I could not believe what I was seeing in the torch light. The fellow who had this treasure passed away and the family had to clean out the shed with a all must go attitude to help their mother. As usually happens with collections like this!!!!!!!!!. I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time to find out about it and appreciate the hardware so I collected it and made a donation to the widow. There is more in another shed on the property which they will fish out and let me have a look at it. Very private family.

It has been a long time since I have seen a full set of equipment as per the CES in almost pristine condition since I served in particularly the Aerial assemblies.

Sorry to make our UK friends "Green with Envy".
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Old 02-09-17, 12:26
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A mixture of late WW2 and Larkspur . The 22 and 122 set (Aust.) are likely 1945 vintage . I believe the 122 set only saw service in the last few months of WW2, the CMF were still using them in the early 1960's.

The rare items are: the waterproof aluminium cover for the 22/122 set Aust. There is a rubber gasket that seals the lid/set, the whole unit was in theory, able to float.

The 21 foot wood mast bag is rare and I've never seen one before. Can you take more pics of it ? Not sure what it's for, ancillaries ?

The two small antenna bases look similar to the clip on bases for the 122 set case. On the rear LH corner of the set case there is a lug or lugs that locates the base , the base is for the F rods to be fitted directly to the set.
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Old 02-09-17, 13:05
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Thanks for the info Mike. The aerial poles are aluminium and not timber, does this make a difference? I have one complete set as per the CES schedule and one incomplete set (two sets of mast poles though). Can post some more detailed photos tomorrow if you wish, although I have already posted the kits laid out with ropes, pegs etc. It is great to gather some info on these items and your comments help to improve my knowledge. I have another water proof case lid to compliment the complete case also. The Larkspur set I believe is from a Centurion Tank as they come with the typical head sets, hand piece and neck straps that the tankies use. Then who can tell!!!!

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Old 02-09-17, 14:22
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This is the bag I was referring to Dave:

The spare 22 valves, be careful because the round rubber spring loaded device is often welded/stuck to the glass envelope of the valve , gentle persuasion is required to free it all up.

The 122 sets survived in good numbers , they were specially designed with tropical use in mind , PVC insulated wires were a great advantage. A friend of mine in Adelaide rebuilds them and flogs them . As a novice ham I used a 122 set and had many contacts with it, often with WW2 era signals chaps. The microphone moving coil insert is often troublesome and is a cause of weak modulation . I used the set mainly with CW (morse) . Being Xtal locked there was no issue with the transmitter drifting but I did use the VFO now and then . I recall contacting a Chilean sailing ship training vessel out in the Pacific ocean and a few US hams.
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Old 02-09-17, 21:03
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The CPRC and 510 radios were Canadian issue in the 50s thru the early 70s. The CPRC was a Canadian invention as a section radio. The 510s have a tall battery case and two Penguin's feet for stability. I think a well warmed up pair of vocal cords will have greater range than either one.

FWIW, I recognize many of the Larkspur components as Canadian-like, parts to the C42.
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Old 03-09-17, 02:02
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Hello Mike,

Hope these assist, inside the aerial bag is a separate compartment with a press stud flap.

1 - Aerial bag which carries all the CES apart from the pegs and spikes.
2 - Bag markings
3 - Diameter of bag
4 - Peg/spike bag
5 - Peg/spike bag length

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Mike, the 21 foot wood mast bag is the same as the aerial bag.

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Old 03-09-17, 04:23
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Ok thanks . The little short bag ZAA 4642 : Taking a guess, I think it is part of the kit for the wooden masts that fit on the side of the 15 cwt Aust. CMP wireless vans . Andrew T in Adelaide would love to have that bag for he is always looking for the accessories for his wireless van.

I'm not sure what the black item is in post #7 with the two small black boxes next to it. Also in post #7 the two small boxes on top of the 22 set spare valve box, these could be spare valve boxes for the 128 set Aust.

I see a larkspur signal generator , I had one of these , nice unit but the output is very low , only a few millivolts from memory.
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Thanks Mike.

A better pic of the black boxes.

1. All three.
2. The wiring diagram of the larger box.
3. Front view of what I am unsure of
4. Rear view of same item.

Which item in my posts is the Larkspur Signal Generator?

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The signal generator is the blue thing in post #6 , it is a Larkspur item , 'oscillator test set No.1' . An example of universal test equipment used for aligning the tuned circuits of radio sets.

Your uploaded pics won't enlarge for some reason. Can't make out the text on that circuit .

The B47 , your pic 3 and 4 is a low powered VHF liason set , used in armoured vehicles ? Centurions and Ferrets. I bought the last of the B47's that Aussie disposals had at Dandenong, 10 bucks each , the salesman said "we are getting out of the surplus radios" and he offered me a free Murphy navy receiver !
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The still-wrapped J1 box is the control unit for almost any of the vehicle-mounted sets. It's the same as the large one on the tray to its immediate right.

The tray on the right (with a J1 and an 'O' box fitted (the latter is incorrect, I think) is the 'top tray' for a C11/R210 setup, and normally carries the J1 box and an LT (power distribution) box for the setup.

The J1 box does all the audio switching and headset feeds for a 'one set' vehicle installation (it provides a couple of headset connections and 12-way feed for other audio distribution (C = Crew, D = Driver) boxes), and contains the very important Voltage Control Relay for the harness - this allows the batteries to be float-charged from the vehicle alternator and tells the set when to switch to the 'low voltage' setting as the batteries run down. (The default is 28-30 volt input to protect the valve heaters, with the VCR in play the set will continue to operate well with an input voltage down around 20-22 volts).

The tubular handles on the top trays are a lesson learned from WW2. They are so that you can remove kit from a vehicle easily: the bottom tray remains in place, you simply disconnect the power, harness and audio cables, undo the clamps holding the set and supply unit to the bottom tray, and lift the entire assembly out as a single unit. (Without the danger of the thing turning turtle on you as was a favourite with the WS19 on the demountable carriers (3, 23 or 25).)

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The CPRC-26 was also known as the SR A40 in UK usage.

That cable drum is "Reels, Cable, No.4" and is a split drum originally used with "Assault cable No.2" a pvc insulated 7 steel 1 copper stranded single wire supplied in hessian-wrapped 'doughnuts'. It could (supposedly) be air-dropped without a parachute. The wrapping would be removed, then the doughnut inserted into the drum so that the wire ends were accessible, the drum tightened up and the string ties removed, then "off you went". The matching "Apparatus Cable Laying No.10" (I think) is an aluminium hook that goes over your arm (drum hanging below on a spindle with a captive locking pin). They are a very useful drum and remained in service because of that, long after the assault cable disappeared into history.

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The 21 foot wood mast bag is rare and I've never seen one before. Can you take more pics of it ? Not sure what it's for, ancillaries ?
Aha! So that's what it it. I've got one of those (came from Australia with another bag). I imagine it was to contain all the ancillaries (guys, pins, hammer, and base plate) and the mast would be carried separately - being wood I'd expect it to be rather longer than the 3-foot 'D rods', possibly only two or three sections, like the 17-foot poles used for overhead line and road crossings which were two-piece with a slot-in joint sleeve.

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Aha! So that's what it it. I've got one of those (came from Australia with another bag). I imagine it was to contain all the ancillaries (guys, pins, hammer, and base plate) and the mast would be carried separately - being wood I'd expect it to be rather longer than the 3-foot 'D rods', possibly only two or three sections, like the 17-foot poles used for overhead line and road crossings which were two-piece with a slot-in joint sleeve.

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This pic shows the three hook/straps along the upper sides that hold the wooden masts . Maybe three 7 foot long or two 10.5 foot long ? Both sides of the van have the straps. For some unknown reason, photos of the masts in their storage straps are rare.

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C207912
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Would this be a Humber ?

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1094150

cab 11 wireless van in the desert

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C1096344


could be inside the van with a 109 set

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It is not a Humber FV1601A, unsure about another model Humber.

The differences I see are;

1. Rear cab window central - Humber RHS.
2. Spare Wheel in tray - Humber in Cab LHS
3. No roof hatches.
4. Bow Set not correct - Humber has flat plate strips running length ways.

Great pictures of the radios and vehicles.

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Some more radio equipment from the Sheds.

Not WW2 but most certainty military.

Two dishes and one rectifier along with more cables and a very long lead which looks like an aerial lead (ZA 43174).

They look dirty from years of being stored in a shed but are almost untouched.

Any help would be of assistance.

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looks to be part of the B70 carrier telephony set.
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Thanks for the quick reply Bruce. Now I know, wonder if the dishes can be used to pick up the local FM Radio station?

Thanks again.

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Thanks for the quick reply Bruce. Now I know, wonder if the dishes can be used to pick up the local FM Radio station?

Thanks again.

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The parabolic dish is a fun thing to play with . A friend of mine made a audio sniffer out of a dish, we could hear people conversing over quite a long distance. They are highly directional and if you wanted to null out some interference then a dish is ideal .

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