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Old 01-01-18, 12:56
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Default Help needed on mounting oilfilter on 216Cu

HELP needed guys

CAn some one show me pictures on how the oilfilter is mounted on the 216 Cu

Im trying to figure out how the bracket mounts on top of the engine but I strongly believe I have a wrong bracket.

Pic request on racket and closeup of mount on engine

Much appreciated !!!!

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Old 01-01-18, 13:57
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Hi Pieter,

First of all, a happy new year to all of you!

I hope I can answer your question, on our artillery tractor it is mounted on the cylinder head studs.

I hope the pics will tell,

Groet,

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Old 01-01-18, 14:02
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Hi Pieter

Just so we get you the correct information are we talking early or late. There are several good threads with photos and details on MLU.

But always room for discussion, also what filter parts do you have to start working with.

Cheers Phil
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Old 01-01-18, 22:59
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Default Oil filter

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Hi Pieter

Just so we get you the correct information are we talking early or late. There are several good threads with photos and details on MLU.

But always room for discussion, also what filter parts do you have to start working with.

Cheers Phil

Hi Phil

we are talking late, I have added 2 pictures
one of the Bracket
one of the engine .

The bracket does not seem to fit , so I guessing that for this engine I need a whole other bracket

Pieter
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Hi Pieter,

First of all, a happy new year to all of you!

I hope I can answer your question, on our artillery tractor it is mounted on the cylinder head studs.

I hope the pics will tell,

Groet,

Stefan
Stefan , my engine manifold looks quite different, see also pics I send to Phils answer
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Old 02-01-18, 13:42
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Default Special Head Bolts

Hi Pieter

There are special head bolts, will find photos of them and post. The good thing is that the filter body should be the military standard. There is service bulletin that covers this filter and location for the oil filter.

More information to follow.

Cheers Phil
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Old 02-01-18, 17:19
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Hi Pieter

Here are some of the other threads on Oil Filters which I think you will find of help.

Special Head Bolts and Service Bulletin on Filters look at the 4th post for the bolts. http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ght=oil+filter

For the earlier frame mounted filter look at this thread
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ter#post244886

Link to some photos on the filter on my web site http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/H...20Page%209.htm

Hope these help

Cheers Phil
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Old 02-01-18, 19:44
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Default Oil filter

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Hi Pieter

Here are some of the other threads on Oil Filters which I think you will find of help.

Special Head Bolts and Service Bulletin on Filters look at the 4th post for the bolts. http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ght=oil+filter

For the earlier frame mounted filter look at this thread
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ter#post244886

Link to some photos on the filter on my web site http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/H...20Page%209.htm

Hope these help

Cheers Phil
Many Thanks Phil!
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Old 03-01-18, 11:10
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Hi Pieter

Here are some of the other threads on Oil Filters which I think you will find of help.

Special Head Bolts and Service Bulletin on Filters look at the 4th post for the bolts. http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ght=oil+filter

For the earlier frame mounted filter look at this thread
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ter#post244886

Link to some photos on the filter on my web site http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/H...20Page%209.htm

Hope these help

Cheers Phil

Phil, do you have any source for the special headbolts??
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Old 03-01-18, 16:34
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Hi Pieter

I don't have a source for them but have given it some thought if I ever needed to replace any of them. Well I've through of two ideas and lets hear from the collective knowledge of MLU as to what would be best.

1. Get a cylinder head stud of the correct size but a little long. Put the stud in with a nut and torque the head to spec. Then put on washer or spacer to bring the filter mount to the correct height clear the obstacles washer filter mount washer and nut.

2. Fabricate a new bolt by welding another bolt head to head to the top of a regular head bolt. My first concern with this approach was taking the temper out of the head bolt. So thought of sticking the head bolt in water right up to the head and then arch welding the bolt for the filter on head to head.

What are peoples thoughts?

Cheers Phil

PS Remember that there are two different head bolt lengths used on the Chevy head.
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I've done a trial of the bolt head to bolt head welding but have no idea what, if any, metallurgical effects it may have had. The basic welding of one to the other wasn't hard - create the tapered groove, weld them and dress the weld down. This was only done to satisfy my curiosity as a trial to see if it was possible to make something of the right size and shape, not actually used to hold the head and filter in place.
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I believe I'll be in need of two of these special ones as well.

Would turning down hex stock on a lathe be a suitable alternative?
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Any machinist with decent knowledge of metallurgy should be able to ascertain the correct material requirements and hardening if any. After that, a simple CNC lathe program and voila.
Get someone to invest and make a run.
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