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Question: What vehicle is the Loyd Fuel Cap From?
The part number suggests its a Loyd specific part which I find very hard to believe. Does anyone recognise it? What do normal Carrier ones look like?
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Alastair Lincoln, UK. Under Restoration: 1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing 1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry The Loyd on Facebook |
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Loyd Fuel Tank Cap
Hi Alastair, we are looking at the fuel tank cap in your picture for the Loyd. Universal Carriers and Auss /NZ carriers are all brass construction, where as the Loyd has bakerlite grip moulded over the brass cap underneath exactly as the one in the picture.
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If you had an original I could help you remanufacture them, should you want to.
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Thanks chaps. The difficult part will be finding an original.... I think I know a man who might be able to help though.
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Alastair Lincoln, UK. Under Restoration: 1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing 1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry The Loyd on Facebook |
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The Carrier fuel cap (there are two types) could have originally come from the Vickers light tank, which will likely be from the engine manufacturer (of what ever the engine make is) (Gardiner????) A few years ago i stayed with a friend in Adelaide with Vickers Mk VIa tanks. The oil filler cap is the same cap as the one found on riveted carrier fuel tanks with the tank vent pipes.
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The Brit / Can carrier fuel cap (there are two types) could have originally come from the Vickers light tank, which will likely be from the engine manufacturer (of what ever the engine make is) (Gardiner????) A few years ago i stayed with a friend in Adelaide with Vickers Mk VIa tanks. The oil filler cap is the same cap as the one found on riveted carrier fuel tanks with the tank vent pipes.
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Lynn, The MkVIa had a Meadows engine.
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I've been digging through some tanks I have and some photos of originals. As with most Loyd parts there is an early and late version of tanks and fillers, the later ones being simplified. It looks like the cap is all metal on the later type. The photo will not post from this iPad, I'll do it tomorrow!
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Alastair Lincoln, UK. Under Restoration: 1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing 1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry The Loyd on Facebook |
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Looks similar to Fordson WOT radiator cap.
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Hello all, I thought I'd just chime in here and rule out the Vickers Tank. The first photo is off a carrier tank I have but I'm sure it's just a replacement off an old truck radiator of fuel tank and the next two are on my Vickers and interestingly one is the rear fuel cap and the other is the oil but are basically the same.
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The Vickers type are the same design as the early and MK1 carrier, commonality of design makes sense. Unusual for a British design (said only half jokingly)
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The more common cap was a commercial cap used on all sorts of things, not just vehicles.
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Later simplified fuel tank with what may be an original cap.
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Alastair Lincoln, UK. Under Restoration: 1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing 1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry The Loyd on Facebook |
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Also looks similar to the M135 radiator cap.
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Fuel Caps Various
See the pictures. Here we have Loyd , Canadian , English , Auss/NZ LP carriers
Cheers Andrew.
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And to round out the Bren carrier caps here are the caps from the British carrier fuel tanks, that don't have the vent tubes.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Alastair, I believe the image you posted is copied, cropped and enlarged from Loyd Carrier image # 08 of the Ford Canada test sample Loyd, 01 May, 1943.
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my cromwell has the same brass fuel cap
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Rick, Which brass one? Do you mean the notched (Loyd) one that Alistair / Michael R posted?
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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hi lynn
i meant the cap with 4 raised lugs on, the cromwell has a multitool in the ces for undoing it, the ferret and probably most other afv's of that era have the same cap
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So just for clarity, you mean the centre two in Andrew's 4 cap photo?
If so, that would mean the cap is common to the Bren carrier, the MkVIa Vickers light tank (plus, maybe, other models), as well as the Cromwell. That's a very un British like standardization?
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As I said much earlier in this thread, that cap was a standard commercial cap and used for many things, not just vehicles.
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that's right lynn it's the centre two in andrew's post.
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It's a Canadian photo, but is actually an M.B.Wild manufactured Loyd TT WD No: T136480 that was sent to Canada for evaluation.
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