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Clive,
Is that the same sort of "Mechanical Reliability" that British vehicles are loved and reknown for..... Keith, the curved base plate ends mean that carrier Jacks do work OK as boat anchors, and it is not a big deal when you lose one. Just another $2 at the next swap meet. Rich.
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I do just wonder what the outcome would have been if a properly serviced vehicle had been delivered on time, with spares, documents & technical backup.
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Clive, Clive, Clive,
You can't put something like that up and walk away, even if it is 2.00am. Is this Innisfail Australia? 1955/56: production would have ceased by then? Army or Civilian? Sounds like the Humbers biggest problem was lack of customer support. Maybe they were training for the exemplary service standards to be set by British Leyland in the 1970's. More please. Rich.
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Rich yes "Tropical Trials at Innisfail, Queensland Oct 1955 - May 1956"
Vehicles involved Saracen, Ferret, Humber 1 Ton, Champ As British Humbers go the last ones into service were mid 1955. The report refers to them as Humbers, but that may be a colloquialism for FV1601 as we know they were plated as Commers for you. Might have a picture or two
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I think the Tropical Trials in Australia were done for the British Army as I have seen a report folder with photos, on the Leyland Martian done around the same time. When the Scorpion CVR(T) was on development they also took it to Queensland for the "hot" trials.
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The Humber in Australia
The January edition of the KVE Corowa Newsletter has a terrific article on the Humber trials in Australia. For historical posterity, here it is.
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This Humber won the Sponsors Choice Award at a Grampians Show and Shine yesterday.
It will also be the "Mothership" for the next Champ Camp, Tasmania, in April. Rich.
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Is it one of Russells? I see the 'Mongrel' in the background.
Rick.
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Well Rick,
its either Wally's or Russell's, or Wally's and Russells. Can't keep track. Rich.
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That's super Richard thank you for posting that, looks great fun. Makes one proud to own a Humber. I had already found the shorter 'puddle' clip a few days ago.
I have a little clip I must post up I took a few days. It it was the FV1622 Missile Test Truck being fired up after 10+ years lying idol. I only drove it a few feet, but none the less it was exciting just to hear it breathing again. I meant to say thank you for posting the trials report article. That was very useful from Paul Handel who had researched it well. I have a few photos of the trials I must post up to go with it. I wonder if any of our Canadian friends have any info on the cold weather Humber trials conducted over there?
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Thanks Clive,
Please post what you have, YouTube is definatley in need of Humber movies! Love to see the photos of the trials, Paul did have some which were in the original article, one showing a snorkel fitted, another showing the railway gauge to see how big the vehicle was. Rich. Found the link to the newsletter with the photos http://corowaswim-in.org/docs/Corowa...ary%202011.pdf
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Something to be going on with.
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Might not seem very dramatic, but after being idle for well over 10 years it was nice to hear the B60 come to life. But this I believe is the only surviving FV1622 of 8 produced. I know the Test Troop Sgt who used this very vehicle 18 BK 91 in Cylcops Sqn 2 RTR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1aLZbHSsv8 There are few other Humber clips of mine there.
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Thanks Clive.
Surprising how much better the B60 sounds than the B40, gets a real note to it. Must be terrific to have that historical contact. Rich.
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Rich it can sound nice. Even one of those clips I put on youtube doesn't sound too bad running just of the first 3 cylinders!
On another forum someone asked my what a FV1622 actually was. It may outwardly look like a normal GS but it is a Power Supply, Electrical & Pneumatic, Truck Mounted, Malkara, 1 Ton, Humber FV1622 It went into service in Jan 1963 with the Missile Test Troop, Cyclops Sqn 2 RTR. Here is that very same vehicle at Kandahar Barracks at about that time. I have just sent the clip to the Missile Test troop Sgt who used this very vehicle. It has a governed engine & its most obvious feature was a compressor to run up the gyros when testing the Malkara ATGW centre bodies that were accommodated in the Test Equipment, Guided Missile, Trailer Mounted, Malkara, 1/2 Ton, 2W, Sankey FV2308R which was towed behind it. I was told by the EME that the bottom line was in the event of a catastrophe with a Hornet engine then the FV1622 would have to be a donor.
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Clive, I will be very dissapointed in you, if you do not have the trailer to match.
Can you tell me what the tyre pressure on the mudgaurd is? Rich.
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I was at War & Peace a few years ago & rather unusually found myself looking at a stall with mostly WW2 memrobelia. In a pile of old newspapers I found a mint copy of the full parts book for the FV2308(R). There can't have been many of those printed. I have been in contact with the man who drove back this FV1622 from the Ruddington sales. It was selected as it stood out as a well maintained vehicle which was used very little. It was complete with compressor, alternator & all the fittings in the rear. Yes & you know what's coming, if you don't know what it is you rip it out & throw it away. Quote:
I think that reads TP 36, which is about right. I only have the Servicing Schedules for Pig Mk 1 & Mk 2. But I have a SEME training publication of 1953 that gives the figures for the CT as Road Front 35 Rear 65 Cross Country Front 14 Rear 45 However the Commer FV1601 book states Road Front 27 Rear 65 Cross Country Front 25 Rear 45 All depends whether you have a Humber or a Commer I suppose
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Thanks for the pressures Clive, could not find them in the User Manual. Makes a big difference in the Champ. Imagine it will do so on the Humber as well.
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Rich yes its frustrating not having the pressures in the User Handbook. I suppose the Army like to keep that info separately in the Servicing Schedule along with POLs as these things may change from time to time & reprinting a publication of 2 or 3 pages can be done more easily. Although the Commer book being a civilian publication, has all the info together.
Here is a bit info on the FV1622 in service http://hmvf.co.uk/pdf/MISSILE%20TESTING%20HUMBER.pdf
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You really need to find some more copies of the Commer book....
Thanks for the extra reading, looking forward to it. Rich.
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Clive I feel it only appropriate to show the clip of this rare MV being loaded onto the transport to take to her new home and a new life.
Like a phoenix from the ashes, that giving the previous owner and Humbers is quite symbolic to say the least. It would be something to see that one at War & Peace wining the award in years to come. Do you agree? Regards Wayne
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Enjoyed the Report and the YouTube
Hi Clive
Enjoyed the read about the Humber manual, snip its of different military vehicles are interesting to read and point out details that you have not seen before. Got a kick out of the video of backing the Humber into the garage always a challenge big truck into small door way. After hooking the door casing on the barn door with one of the lift hooks on my radio box, I borrowed a fire house trick of painting lines on the floor which guarantee truck is centered in the door and as long as noting is left inside the box you don't hit anything. Even with the small military mirrors it is just a matter of lining the rear tire up down the inside of orange paint line and backing in. The cross lines are for wheel chocks for the different trucks. PS the truck won the argument with the barn scratched the paint on the lift hook and tore the door casing right off the barn. Cheers
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Phil, I'm glad you could sympathise with exercise. It was a bit nerve racking as you can appreciate.
When it was driven in 10-15 years ago it went in forwards but the extraction was complicated as a lot of shelves & racks have since appeared. Yes the small mirrors have limitations & only one could be positioned to be functional. The tilt frame was too high, so we lowered that & got it halfway through the garage then hit a beam. So out it came again & the frame was removed completely. I suppose if that was not enough the next step would have been to wind down the torsion bars & pretend we were loading it into a Beverley. That would have dropped about 4" in height. The FV1601 that followed was easier as it was facing forwards & there was no body! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXeDOkJ_PU4
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Yup, That is a tight fit. Vision down the left side being next to non existant thanks to the spare wheel bulge, no wonder you had a few helpers. I take it the brakes are a little on the doubtful side as well. Is it the accoustics? Sounds like a diesal under the bonnets.
Well done. Rich.
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Rich, yes you are right about the rear vision, that darned spare wheel!
Well there were no brakes, the servo was in the floor of the cab. Your hearing is good, what you can hear is a Massey-Ferguson at the other end of the bar at the rear! Although the FV1622 engine does run, it has to be drip fed. The bar was not just the traction but the braking. I had not tried the FV1601 engine but that at least was facing the correct way round.
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Great viewing. Thanks for sharing the clips Clive.
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Rich thank you that's a nice clip. I did once see that Humber itself just static at a show, nice to see it doing what its meant to.
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