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Old 03-06-08, 03:11
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Default CFP 303(4) Staff Data Handbook vehicle info

Gentlemen,

I recently came into possession of the March 1975 edition of the this manual. It has a treasure trove of information on all of the land force's vehicles in service at the time including armoured, soft skinned, trailers and artillery. All vehicles are listed by their ECC (Equipment Configuration Code) with full name and description. It then provides the overall dimensions (length, width, height and reduced height) in centimetres and inches, the weight both laden and unladen in kilograms and pounds and finally the shipping space required again in metric and imperial.

As an example of the details available the handbook includes twelve different versions of 1/4 ton vehicles, twenty-seven different versions of 3/4 ton vehicles and forty-five different versions of 2 1/2 ton vehicles.

There is a section on all of the different types of ammunition and their markings used by the land forces and supporting tactical aircraft (rotary and fixed wing). It includes how the ammunition was packed for transport and identifies all of the ammunition types by their Nato Stock Number (NSN).

For those of you interested in the esoteric there are example loading tables for the Hercules, Buffalo and 707 aircraft, along with the same for the DDH, DDE and the supply ships used by Maritime Command.

There is a section on the POL used as well as the bridge classifications for vehicles mentioned above. All in all a very useful manual for CF vehicle information.

If anyone has any questions to ask about the details of their favourite vehicle please feel free and I'll look it up and let you know. I would ask that any questions be posted on the open forum for the benefit of everyone. If, however, you wish to pm me back door then that's fine too.

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Old 03-06-08, 05:34
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Can you list what the Cdn forces ran in the fluid coupling, transmission, and gearcases in the ferrets? The British POL specs do not translate in some cases over to North American fluids.
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Old 03-06-08, 18:04
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"Can you list what the Cdn forces ran in the fluid coupling, transmission, and gearcases in the ferrets? The British POL specs do not translate in some cases over to North American fluids."

Rob,

I'm afraid the manual's tables for POL requirements doesn't go any further than engine and heating fuels. Sorry I couldn't help you on that one.

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Old 04-06-08, 04:20
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For those of you interested in the esoteric there are example loading tables for the Hercules, Buffalo and 707 aircraft, along with the same for the DDH, DDE and the supply ships used by Maritime Command.
Dan.
Are these real ship types not generic ships? In the late '80s I met a British army logistics officer who joined the CF as a specialist in loading army stuff into ships. A strange sort of gap in the body of information I thought. Then I cracked the ship loading manual on the shelf at FMCHQ - it had drawings of Liberty ships! Nothing modern or RoRo, all through deck loading techniques. Sea cans have revolutionized shipping, and maybe that officer wasn't too sad to see their upsurge either.
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"Are these real ship types not generic ships?"

Terry,

There is an entire section on 'Ship and Sea Lift Data' profusely illustrated with diagrams and charts for all of the ships indicated. These included HMCS Provider, the twin ships HMCS Protecteur and HMCS Preserver, the DDE and DDH class destroyers and five individual commercial ships that were to be used if needed. They were the MV Bluenose, MV Ambrose Shea, MV Frederick Carter, MV Leif Ericksson and MS Cabot. These were all ocean going roll on-roll off ships of various tonnage. The four Motor Vessels are shown as being operated by the DOT while the MS Cabot was privately owned.

Lots of vehicle and supply loading capacity, however very sparse on passenger space.

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Old 05-06-08, 02:56
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http://www.geocities.com/thetropics/harbor/2971/

Thanks for the tip. I had to go digging. These were Crown Corporation ships of Marine Atlantic. Marine Atlantic isn't what it used to be. Blame the fixed link, privatizing, year round road connections, and transfers of responsibilities to the provinces. I wonder what or who assumed the sealift responsibility.

"Of the 16 ships which operated up until 1993, only 4 still operate under the Marine Atlantic flag, the M.V. Atlantic Freighter, M.V. Caribou, MV.V. Leif Ericson and M.V. Joseph and Clara Smallwood. The only remaining ferry routes left are the year-round constitutional route between North Sydney, Nova Scotia to Port aux Basques, Newfoundland and the season service from North Sydney, Nova Scotia to Argentia, Newfoundland."
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