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Mk1 bren carrier boxs
I picked up two original bren mag boxes for the mk1 carrier. Never see these in original before, usually lost as they only have a strap holding them in.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Much lesson height than the smoke discharger box
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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I tried to get those off HMVF!! What you pay mate?
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BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN FADE AWAY. Last edited by Paul Dutton; 26-04-16 at 08:13. |
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I found mine on the back of an old tractor at auction. I'll give Derk Derin credit.....I recognised it as a military box, it was Derk who recognised it as the ammunition bin. I didn't have to buy the tractor to get it...I merely had to deal with the guy who did buy the tractor. I guess when you pay $350 for a tractor and get $40 back for the little box under the seat, you are doing OK.
I quickly sandblasted it and brought it to the MVPA convention in Alabama to show John Bizal. We had had a bit of debate about how high these boxes were supposed to be. He had repros of a significantly higher box. On seeing mine (with part number) he borrowed it and made a new pattern of copies. |
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Are we talking bren mags, or bulk ammo storage?
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Charles Fitton Maryhill On., Canada too many carriers too many rovers not enough time. (and now a BSA...) (and now a Triumph TRW...) |
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I believe this box held 5 bandoliers worth of ammunition. One of the equipment listings says it held 250 rounds. My understanding is that it was an earlier version of the "bail out bags" seen on the later carriers.
I tried fitting 5 full bandoliers and they fill the box rather well.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Amazingly.......
Rob,
I remember that! Did I get anything that day? I usually don't get nuttin' Derk
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early) |
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Well it looks like you got to steal my line. You also got a Ford MCP that day, along with a nice pair of Ford doors, although I'm not sure it ever left my yard.
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Yep, designed to take 250 rounds, of loose .303" ammo.
So what are these used in apart from a proper Bren carrier (pre universal that is)?
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Oh yeah!
Now it's all coming back to me. I did get something that day. Alot of good parts on that truck for my Ford MCP dump truck that wound up in your yard in the end.Yes that parts truck was brought to your place and never left. Good thing too cause it saved bringing it to my place and then back to your place! Here's the good truck we picked up that day on the perimeter and hwy 59.
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early) |
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Very nice find indeed !
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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In a multi model parts book, they were in Bren MkI, Bren MkII, and the MkI (MkI*) Universal carriers.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Gents, anyone got details of the strap used?, I've an original tray it sits in and the strap guide at the back of it is to narrow to take the standard 1/2" utility strap. The bandolier stowage makes sense as 250 rounds would rattle around in there.
Paul, I made an offer on them and the guide accepted, he was only to happy to sell when he knew they were going back in a carrier - history preserved !
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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I wondered if the strap was leather perhaps ?
I don't have the box, but I have hundreds and hundreds of .303
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Brian Asbury had some original straps at one time....not sure if he still does. They were the usually 37 pattern webbing with a buckle and the brass tip.
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I used a strap from a P37 map case. It fit perfectly and does a great job of securing the box.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Quote:
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The bottom of the angled tray has a strap "trap" underneath it. Measure the width of it and then the length by what it takes to wrap around the box in the tray and then add a couple of inches for "ease".
From memory, it is the same width as the Large Pack straps. I would cut and stitch 2 of those to give me the length and still have the factory brass tab and buckle already there. Or, you can order the tan cotton webbing and salvage the tip and buckle from some dead bit of Mills webbing and use some brass eyelets to reset the tip. |
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Carrier straps were firstly leather and rubber, but soon became mostly webbing.
Some of the straps were very impractical. I think this is why active service carrier photos never seem to show tools on the board.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Quote:
Does the famous looking down pic on a mk1 give anything away?, if someone has a clear picture.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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37 pattern large pack cross strap
If I remember correctly I used one of the 37 pattern large pack cross straps like Jim Burrill mentioned which are 3/4 inches wide (if I remember correctly) and slipped through the metal retaining tab at the back of the mounting plate.You wind up with both ends original and just take up the slack at the back and pin it,cut it and resew it together,staple or rivet,whatever works for you as you will never see the back of it. If I have time I will take pictures and see what I ended up doing to mine.Spring is here finally in Manitoba and it's time to pull the tarp off of the carrier anyway!
Cheers,Derk
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1942 Ford universal carrier Mk 1 1943 Ford 60 cwt long CMP ambulance 1943 Ford GPW 1/4 ton stretcher jeep 1943 Bantam T-3 1/4 ton trailer BSA folding airborne bicycle ser#R5325 (early) |
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[QUOTE=Lynn Eades;carrier photos never seem to show tools on the board.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, as with the Kangaroos, the infantry kept stealing them..
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Charles Fitton Maryhill On., Canada too many carriers too many rovers not enough time. (and now a BSA...) (and now a Triumph TRW...) |
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Charlie, I have as new old stock, about 3 rubber straps with the part numbers.
They are for the pick handle. They are rubber with a canvas layer in the middle. They bolt onto the channel shaped bracket, but if you try and thread them through the hole in the bracket, it is almost impossible to do.(with the handle in it) The same parts are used to locate the shovel. Who ever designed and approved that set up, was working for the enemy. This time, I couldn't blame the grunts (inf)
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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sten gun slings are 3/4in, certainly fit John Bizal's repro trays and are cheap and plentiful (in the UK at least). If you cut to remove the barrel attachment hook they are plenty long enough and you are left with a buckle at the other end.
Kevin - if you need one I have several spare, ask me when you come over Rick |
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The original British buckle and strap is identified in the Chilwell manual as 3/4" x 30".
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Sten slings are approx. 50 inches long, the right width, so as I say, would make a very passable strap
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