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Old 16-04-14, 10:53
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Default ID. needed. What are they?

I was looking for something in the shed and found these items I want to know what they are and where do they fit into the Military scene.

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Old 16-04-14, 10:56
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Second Item?

Yes I know it's a telephone hand piece.

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1940 Chev WA LRDG "Te Hai"
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Humber FV1601A
Saracen Mk1(?)
25pdr. 1940 Weir No.266
25pdr. Australian Short No.185 (?)
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Old 16-04-14, 14:15
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The 5140-99.... stock number is for the pouch itself. The 5821-99-943-1512 is for a "tool kit, electrical equipment". The stock class itself (5821) is for " 5821 - Radio and Television Communication Equipment, Airborne"

Afraid I can't narrow it down any further. The kit is not applicable to North American usage as near as I can see.
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Old 16-04-14, 15:58
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Doesn't the "99" indicate U.K.origin?
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Old 16-04-14, 19:32
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Yes it does.
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Old 17-04-14, 01:36
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Yes it does.
More information Please Andrew.
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Old 17-04-14, 10:31
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Can't speak for Andrew but yes, the 99 does indicate UK. Beyond that, I know nothing of any use.
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Old 17-04-14, 23:07
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Default Nato stock number

00 is Nato
01 is USA
21 is Canada
66 is Germany
99 is England
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Old 18-04-14, 01:03
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00 is Nato
01 is USA
21 is Canada
66 is Germany
99 is England
Germany is 12
66 is Australia
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Old 18-04-14, 03:42
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Default NSN country codes

The NATO stock number country code is correctly described as the code which identifies the country assigning the NATO item identification code or NAMSA management control number. The numbers in Code sequence as at October 1996 were (and still are):

00 United States
01 United States
09 NAMSA (used only for NAMSA Management Control Numbers)
11 NATO
12 Germany
13 Belgium
14 France
15 Italy
17 Netherlands
20 Canada
22 Denmark
23 Greece
24 Iceland
25 Norway
26 Portugal
27 Turkey
28 Luxembourg
33 Spain
99 United Kingdom

In simple terms, it is the country code assigned to an object that identifies the country of origin/manufacture.

Australia's Defence Stock Number (DSN) code is 66, formerly referred to as the NSN (NATO Stock Number). Australia is not a formal member of NATO.

As more countries have been admitted to NATO since then, the list has probably expanded by a few more code numbers.

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Old 18-04-14, 08:17
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Canada was actually country code 21. We exhausted our available numbers around 2002/2003 and started using 20 after that time.

A good point to note is the US code of 00 and 01. The US used up all their 00 numbers by 1974, at which time they started using 01 for the country code. You can kind of date the NSN by looking at that break. They are now up to the 01-600- range of numbers, so with another war or two, and the new NSNs for new equipment, will use those 01 numbers up eventually, after which I believe they will be using 04.
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Old 18-04-14, 17:29
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Thanks, Rob, I'll add that info to my list. Canada is show on the 1996 NATO document as 20, rather than 21 (which is vacant in that document), so maybe the other way around, ie used 20 first, then 21 once the '20' series was exhausted?

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Old 19-04-14, 05:48
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Nope, I can absolutely unequivocally guarantee is was 21 from the implementation of NSNs until approx 2002/2003. Then we went to 20 cause 22 was already taken.

Off the top of my head, the Kent Moore double flaring tool was a 5120-21-111-3075 stock number. Very early number, with a 21 country identifier.

Many small arms (like the FNs and Enfields)and their parts are in the 1005-21-103 range as well, again stuff from the 50s.
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Old 19-04-14, 18:58
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So I wonder why the 1996 NATO doc has it listed as 20, and no entry for 21: printer error? Curious!

Just goes to show: never take a single document at face value!

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Old 20-04-14, 02:18
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This is really interesting, I originally was just wanting to id the two items. Now we have a great listing of NATO numbers etc.

Anyone ID the hand piece?

Thanks Rick.
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Old 20-04-14, 02:24
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Anyone ID the hand piece?

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Only that is bears the logo of the Standard Telephone Company, not much else to go on.
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Old 20-04-14, 09:16
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Country NCB Code(s)
USA 00 and 01 Unassigned (USA)
02 through 10
NATO-standard items 11
West Germany / Germany 12
Belgium 13
France 14
Italy 15
Czech Republic
16
Netherlands 17
South Africa 18
Brazil 19
Canada 20 and 21
Denmark 22
Greece
23
Iceland 24
Norway 25
Portugal
26
Turkey
27
Luxembourg 28
Argentina
29
Japan 30
Israel 31
Singapore
32
Spain 33
Malaysia 34
Thailand 35
Egypt 36
Republic of Korea
37
Estonia
38
Romania
39
Slovakia
40
Austria
41
Slovenia 42
Poland 43
United Nations-standard items
44
Indonesia 45
Philippines 46
Lithuania 47
Fiji
48
Tonga 49
Bulgaria50
Hungary 51
Chile
52
Croatia 53
Republic of Macedonia 54
Latvia 55
Oman 56
Russian Federation
57
Finland 58
Albania
59
Kuwait
60
Ukraine 61
Morocco 63
Sweden
64
Papua, New Guinea 65
Australia 66
Afghanistan 67
Georgia 68
Saudi Arabia 70
United Arab Emirates 71
India 72
Serbia
73
Pakistan 74
Bosnia-Herzegovina
75
Brunei 76
Montenegro
77
Jordan 78
Peru 79
New Zealand
98
United Kingdom 99
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Old 20-04-14, 13:49
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Out of curiosity I checked Cencat on this item and it is listed as
Maintenance Kit, Electronic Equipment
Misc Comms Equipment
Listed on Cencat in Apr 1991
Primary users are:
Brazil
Singapore
Italy
Denmark

Still learning to use/search on Cencat, so no more info at hand
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