MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #901  
Old 20-07-18, 17:09
Tim Bell's Avatar
Tim Bell Tim Bell is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tamar Valley, Cornwall
Posts: 751
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave lean View Post
Many thanks to Tim Bell (MLU)who has given me a quality lead on information regarding the elusive Vickers . 5 in MG details. With any luck we should be able to replicate the exterior features of this particular MG and in so doing keep the high level of authenticity that Colin is striving for.


If Richard Fisher doesn't have the answers you need for the Vickers 50 cal - then am not sure who will.

Tim
Reply With Quote
  #902  
Old 22-07-18, 03:21
Phillip's Avatar
Phillip Phillip is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 174
Default Vickers .50 Cal

David,

There is a set of line drawings for the 0.50 in the Vickers Technical Handbook as pictured.

Not Blueprints but you can scale from these. PM sent as I can send you either a hard or soft copy if you would like.

Regards

Phillip
Attached Thumbnails
F64EB035-5F8C-42A6-B1F0-E897AC9F9EF9.jpeg  
__________________
Phillip Thompson

"He who has the tiger by the tale, is often afraid to let go" - Confucius

Ford FGT No.9 (long suffering restoration project)
25 Pdr (Under Restoration)
No.27 Artillery Trailer (Under Restoration)
Bit and pieces of a 2 pdr AT (Looking for bits)
LP2a Carrier - 3" Mortar Trials (Restored)
Reply With Quote
  #903  
Old 22-07-18, 03:35
Phillip's Avatar
Phillip Phillip is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 174
Default

Oops forgot the important bit.
Attached Thumbnails
BC7DF43B-09F2-4D46-A775-25EB32621CFE.jpg  
__________________
Phillip Thompson

"He who has the tiger by the tale, is often afraid to let go" - Confucius

Ford FGT No.9 (long suffering restoration project)
25 Pdr (Under Restoration)
No.27 Artillery Trailer (Under Restoration)
Bit and pieces of a 2 pdr AT (Looking for bits)
LP2a Carrier - 3" Mortar Trials (Restored)
Reply With Quote
  #904  
Old 22-07-18, 03:44
Bruce Parker (RIP) Bruce Parker (RIP) is offline
GM Fox I
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SW Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,606
Default

I cannot wait to see the results of this gun search/recreation. It will be epic.
Reply With Quote
  #905  
Old 22-07-18, 11:49
charlie fitton's Avatar
charlie fitton charlie fitton is offline
HLIofC - Normandy Pl
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Maryhill Ontario
Posts: 942
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Parker View Post
I cannot wait to see the results of this gun search/recreation. It will be epic.
Did you mean "recreation" or "re-creation"?

No matter - either way it will still be fun...
__________________
Charles Fitton
Maryhill On.,
Canada

too many carriers
too many rovers
not enough time.
(and now a BSA...)
(and now a Triumph TRW...)
Reply With Quote
  #906  
Old 23-07-18, 09:36
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

The guns certainly are going to be an interesting project and a thread on their own.
The last couple of days have been at a machine turning and milling the gear retaining block. It is a 2" thick piece of steel and very solid. I will do the shaft holes after I get my new gears.
Attached Thumbnails
20180722_094507.jpg   20180722_142540.jpg   20180723_113647.jpg   20180723_132704.jpg   20180723_132713.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #907  
Old 23-07-18, 09:39
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

I used my geared drill to turn my rotating table a few thousand times.
Attached Thumbnails
20180723_140737.jpg   20180723_163405.jpg   20180723_164220.jpg   20180723_164309.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #908  
Old 28-07-18, 03:37
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

I have now completed the other final drives apart from the gears that will be done by some one else.
I need a seal so I used a fan belt which works great.
Attached Thumbnails
20180726_095152.jpg   20180726_135555.jpg   20180727_102232.jpg   20180727_102248.jpg   20180727_105135.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #909  
Old 28-07-18, 03:40
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

The last part is a split section. I made it in one piece, cut it in halves, then mounted it to an original drive part and then re machined it in the lathe to re centre it.
Attached Thumbnails
20180727_132348.jpg   20180727_142720.jpg   20180727_155615.jpg   20180727_160049.jpg   20180727_160205.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #910  
Old 28-07-18, 03:42
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

After I get my new parts back I will be able to fit them to the tank and put the tracks on. I still have plenty to do though.
Attached Thumbnails
20180728_102245.jpg   20180728_102254.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #911  
Old 25-08-18, 10:09
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

Been a little while between drinks but I have done quite a bit inside the tank as in the linkage and also the drive train. Fortunately I have some very good diagrams. I also got the first of my gear gutting parts back.
Attached Thumbnails
20180804_150607.jpg   20180805_111207.jpg   20180809_181406.jpg   20180811_112435.jpg   20180822_092632.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #912  
Old 25-08-18, 10:12
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

I had to complete the rest of the turning clutch drum. The chap that cut it for me left excess so I can do my welding and then machine it down to size.
Attached Thumbnails
20180823_140848.jpg   20180823_140917.jpg   20180824_094126.jpg   20180824_110840.jpg   20180825_095928.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #913  
Old 25-08-18, 10:13
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

He did a great job as the clutches fit in really nice. I have changed the design a bit to suit myself but it will still be OK.
Attached Thumbnails
20180825_112245.jpg   20180825_114819.jpg   20180825_143337.jpg   20180825_151420.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #914  
Old 25-08-18, 10:16
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

I will drill the holes after I get the shaft back.
Attached Thumbnails
20180825_170358.jpg   20180825_170435.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #915  
Old 28-08-18, 09:13
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

I have assembled the steering clutches but not the fine adjustment yet. I guess that will be done after installation as I don't have details of that part so a bit of trial and error to come. I have just temporarily put the newly made clutch cover on for a bit of a test fit and it is excellent.
Attached Thumbnails
20180828_141230.jpg   20180828_141554.jpg   20180828_141607.jpg   20180828_141620.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #916  
Old 28-08-18, 12:36
David Herbert David Herbert is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland - previously Suffolk
Posts: 547
Default

Collin, that looks great !

I think your redesign of the clutch drum is very sensible. It will be much stronger than the original which was obviously too fragile judging by the brazed repair where the centre had been ripped out of it. That reduced the cooling venilation area to less than yours and it evidently worked so I think you probably have a better cooling / strength compromise than the original, plus it was easier to make.

I can't wait for the next installment...

David
Reply With Quote
  #917  
Old 01-09-18, 00:54
George Moore's Avatar
George Moore George Moore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth UK
Posts: 130
Default Spent cartridge tray

Colin,
There was some discussion a while back about the cartridge tray, and going through my collection of photographs I have noticed an anomaly.
This might have been suggested before, but I am confident that the photographs I have show only one handle fitted to the tray, it being on the "drivers" side. There does not appear to be a handle of any description on the other side. On closer inspection, there is what appears to be a plate, slightly less than the full width and approximately 1/2 the depth, measured from the front edge to the rear edge.
it appears that this plate could slide out, and the bottom of the tray has a rectangular slot, slightly smaller than the plate. Spent cartridges would then fall from the tray, to be collected, possibly done after an action.
It looks as if the handle is locked into position, so as to retain the "sliding" plate.
Hope this makes sense.

George.
Reply With Quote
  #918  
Old 01-09-18, 08:45
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

Hi David, I am more than confident the change I have made is considerably stronger than the original and the easiest way I could reproduce it. They did a great job of the old repair as it was probably done during its military days and still very strong.

George, that part was sorted out quite well back on page 27 and it all made very good sense why it was designed the way is was and thanks for your input.
Colin.
Reply With Quote
  #919  
Old 01-09-18, 16:17
George Moore's Avatar
George Moore George Moore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth UK
Posts: 130
Default Ooops

Kinda lost the thread there.
Sorry mate
Reply With Quote
  #920  
Old 03-09-18, 01:53
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

All good George
Reply With Quote
  #921  
Old 03-09-18, 16:59
RichardT10829's Avatar
RichardT10829 RichardT10829 is offline
Richard Harrison
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cullercoats Newcastle Upon Tyne United Kingdom
Posts: 3,059
Default

As always, totally in awe of your skills Colin.

would love to own one of these things.... its in the pipeline ! just need the lottery win first.
__________________
is mos redintegro

__5th Div___46th Div__
1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI*
Lower Hull No. 10131
War Department CT54508 (SOLD)
1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration).
1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration).
Reply With Quote
  #922  
Old 16-09-18, 09:34
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

Thanks Richard, I'll put one aside for you
I'm still working on the engine and transmission but took a break from that and made the heat shields, mufflers and brackets. They are quite a big muffler for a small tank.
Attached Thumbnails
20180915_082023.jpg   20180915_082716.jpg   20180915_091205.jpg   20180915_091447.jpg   20180915_124322.jpg  

Reply With Quote
  #923  
Old 16-09-18, 09:39
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

I made a really crude press die and formed the ends as per the drawing I have and some baffles for the inside. Rolled the tube to suit the ends and welded it all together. Also the clamping brackets as well.
Attached Thumbnails
20180915_125311.jpg   20180915_135953.jpg   20180916_131153.jpg   20180916_150759.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #924  
Old 16-09-18, 09:41
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

All bolted on and it's a good fit. Hopefully the engine will be fitted in the next couple of weeks.
Attached Thumbnails
20180916_164637.jpg   20180916_164701.jpg   20180916_164803.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #925  
Old 16-09-18, 15:17
maple_leaf_eh maple_leaf_eh is offline
Terry Warner
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Shouting at clouds
Posts: 3,081
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by colin jones View Post
I made a really crude press die and formed the ends as per the drawing I have and some baffles for the inside. Rolled the tube to suit the ends and welded it all together. Also the clamping brackets as well.
What you call crude, most of us build up ourselves and call impressive.
__________________
Terry Warner

- 74-????? M151A2
- 70-08876 M38A1
- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

Beware! The Green Disease walks among us!
Reply With Quote
  #926  
Old 24-09-18, 13:48
Ian Fawbert Ian Fawbert is offline
Jeep guy in CMP world!
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 340
Default

Hi Colin,

I am not sure if these are like your tank, or have been posted before, but i saw vickers and thought of you.

https://collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/r.../PRG+691/12/22
'Vickers light tanks in Syria [PRG 691/12/22] • Photograph'
'View of a Vickers (5 ton) light tank on a trailer behind a truck.'


Cheers,
Ian.
__________________
Ian Fawbert

1942 Script Willys MB, sn:131175
1942 Script Ford GPW, sn:11730
1944 Ford GPW
1943 #3 GMH jeep trailer
1945 #4 GMH, RAAF jeep Trailer
SOLD: Ford F15A. Aust. #? Office Body.
www.vintageengines.net
Reply With Quote
  #927  
Old 02-10-18, 13:20
lynx42 lynx42 is offline
Rick Cove
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Paynesville, AUSTRALIA
Posts: 1,863
Default 2 Vickers in Cowra C1940

Hi Colin,

Found this photo on Facebook and am not sure where it originated from. One Robert Hunt uploaded it and thinks it is Cowra NSW in 1940.

Click image for larger version

Name:	42866960_1622203514550184_2588403238260703232_n.jpg
Views:	20
Size:	75.1 KB
ID:	102624

The front one has no. 277 on the front but I cannot read the second one. The car on the right is a 1939 Chev sedan.

Regards Rick.
__________________
1916 Albion A10
1942 White Scoutcar
1940 Chev Staff Car
1940 F30S Cab11
1940 Chev WA LRDG "Te Hai"
1941 F60L Cab12
1943 Ford Lynx
1942 Bren Gun Carrier VR no.2250
Humber FV1601A
Saracen Mk1(?)
25pdr. 1940 Weir No.266
25pdr. Australian Short No.185 (?)
KVE Member.
Reply With Quote
  #928  
Old 02-10-18, 19:19
Richard Farrant's Avatar
Richard Farrant Richard Farrant is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kent, England
Posts: 3,634
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx42 View Post
Hi Colin,

Found this photo on Facebook and am not sure where it originated from. One Robert Hunt uploaded it and thinks it is Cowra NSW in 1940.

Attachment 102624

The front one has no. 277 on the front but I cannot read the second one. The car on the right is a 1939 Chev sedan.

Regards Rick.

Hi Rick,
277 would have been named Kingfisher. Not one of those known to have survived. Good photo.

regards,
Richard
__________________
Richard

1943 Bedford QLD lorry - 1941 BSA WM20 m/cycle - 1943 Daimler Scout Car Mk2
Member of MVT, IMPS, MVG of NSW, KVE and AMVCS
KVE President & KVE News Editor
Reply With Quote
  #929  
Old 02-10-18, 22:14
Tony Smith's Avatar
Tony Smith Tony Smith is offline
No1, Mk 2** (I'm back!)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lithgow, NSW, Australia
Posts: 5,042
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lynx42 View Post
Hi Colin,

Found this photo on Facebook and am not sure where it originated from. One Robert Hunt uploaded it and thinks it is Cowra NSW in 1940.

Regards Rick.
There is a series of these pics held at the AWM, so perhaps it is a still from movie footage.

Curiously, other pics also show 277 as the leading vehicle from a similar perspective, but at different points along Kendall St, perhaps they used a HD camera on a Drone?

The AWM pics are captioned:

"Description
Cowra, NSW. 11 September 1940. Bren Gun Carriers of the 2/1st Australian Medium Regiment moving down the main street of Cowra during a parade. The street is lined with cars and people, some of whom are standing on the backs of trucks in order to get a better view. (Donor K. Warner)"
Attached Thumbnails
P02938.003.JPG   P02938.001.JPG  
__________________
You can help Keep Mapleleafup Up! See Here how you can help, and why you should!

Last edited by Tony Smith; 02-10-18 at 22:20.
Reply With Quote
  #930  
Old 25-10-18, 03:05
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

Thankyou for the photos. It's amazing what is around if you know where to look.

Back to the Vickers now as I have just got my blank gears back. I had to drill and tap the main ring gear and made a tool to fit my mill that allows me to tap the holes straight and true. After I have completed the gears, ring gear and the drive shaft I have to send them all in to be hardened. It certainly has been quite a unique part of this project but a very important one.
Attached Thumbnails
20181023_131443.jpg   20181023_163014.jpg   20181025_094735.jpg   20181025_094759.jpg   20181025_095052.jpg  

Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Door Resto Barry Churcher The Restoration Forum 13 15-05-22 15:36
FAT cab 13 No 9 resto Mrs Vampire The Softskin Forum 27 29-09-21 06:11
C15A resto harrygrey382 The Restoration Forum 9 08-06-15 09:40
another CAN m37 resto Steve Wilson The Restoration Forum 11 25-08-12 15:57
m 37 resto in new brunswick pauljboudreau Post-war Military Vehicles 118 07-03-11 22:29


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:12.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016