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Old 21-06-07, 22:34
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FBE linked together to form a ferry, the front end appears to be sagging a little must be a fair bit of weight on top from the two Morris gun tractors and the 8cwt Ford. The guys on the front seem unconcerned, the vehicles belong to a R.A unit of 3rd infantry division and are crossing the river Thames
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Old 21-06-07, 22:57
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Just to change the scene a little here are a couple of images of U.S bridging equipment during the build up to the Rhine crossing
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Old 22-06-07, 06:50
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Les,

The first of your US images was interesting in that it is unusual to see Autocar U-8144T & Pontoon Trailer carrying a rubber trackway pontoon in addition to normal steel pontoon.

I suspect you have opened the door to a series of Brockway images which I will process when I get home this afternoon!

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Old 22-06-07, 15:48
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As "threatened", here are some US bridging images:
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Old 22-06-07, 15:50
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And another one....

Someone, please tell me if these are too boring or off subject for forum!

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Old 22-06-07, 15:52
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French operated Brockway
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Old 22-06-07, 15:55
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Brockway; close-up of boom controls from manual; if anyone interested I have TM9-813 (also covers "normal" White 666 GS and Corbett crance chassis).

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Old 22-06-07, 15:57
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And another one....

Someone, please tell me if these are too boring or off subject for forum!

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I think they are a bit off subject(very US), but if you have more, I am bored yet.

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I am trying to source which publication the attached drawings are from that David posted earlier in this thread, as I am hoping to get a larger scan of the diagrams?
Does anyone know the source of these diagrams?



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Old 31-01-24, 23:41
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I am trying to source which publication the attached drawings are from that David posted earlier in this thread, as I am hoping to get a larger scan of the diagrams?
Does anyone know the source of these diagrams?

I am still looking for some higher resolution scans of the drawings attached. Does anyone know where these came from?




And does anyone know if there ever was a manual/publication on the Folding boat and pontoon equipment as used on the Canadian Diamond T 975's.....apart from the diagram from the design records?

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Old 01-02-24, 02:55
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These are the FBE manuals that I am aware of:

Military Engineering, Vol. III, Part II, Equipment, Bridges (excluding Bailey)
Pamphlet No. 2, Folding Boat Equipment, Mark II, 1936
Pamphlet No. 13, Folding Boat Equipment, Mark III, 1945

Parts List for Trailers 4-wheeled 35-cwt, Folding Boat, Pontoon Nos. 1 and 2 Mark I, 1938

Provisional Handbook for Folding Boat Equipment, Mark III, 1941

Royal Engineers Training Memorandum
No. 16 June 1945 Carriage of Folding Boats in 3-ton Lorries

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No. 14 1934 Folding Boat Equipment
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Old 06-02-24, 00:35
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Ed, Thanks for taking the time to look into this.

I have purchased copies the first two pamphlets you mentioned; Pamphlet no. 2, dated 1939 and Pamphlet no. 13, dated 1945.
The former shows some diagrams of very early trucks FBE trucks, which are not the ones I am after, but nonetheless interesting to add to this thread.
The latter does show the trucks with the 4 pillars, but only as a picture, not the diagrams that David posted here years ago.
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Old 22-06-07, 15:58
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A couple of colour images
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Old 22-06-07, 16:00
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Hendrik,

You might be able to tell me where these next two were taken; buildings look flemish: Belgium or Netherlands?
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Old 22-06-07, 16:04
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Pictures are from a French source, but the buildings are definitely Northern France, Belgium or Netherlands!

Oh...and this will be the last US image from me (although I do have some good clear shots of Quickway cranes on Coleman 4x4 and Corbett 6x4 chassis; if anyone is interested privately I can send - unless Les authorises me to post here!)

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Old 22-06-07, 16:28
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Back on a British subject!

These are the stormboats as shown in Les's picture of Karrier K6; they look a bit more substantial (heavy!) when being manhandled than when sitting stacked on the back of a 3 tonner!
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Old 22-06-07, 16:50
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Assembling FBE Mk3 rafts (to replace two floating bays hit by shelling during the morning 27 August 1944) on River Seine at Vernon.
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Old 22-06-07, 17:04
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Pictures are from a French source, but the buildings are definitely Northern France, Belgium or Netherlands!

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Buildingd aren't from the Netherlands, I looks like northern France to me.

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Old 22-06-07, 17:15
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Les,

This shot is from Rhine crossing; this is a bit of a bridging cum crane post!

2 Coles cranes are visible.

In the background is "normal" Army EMA MkVI with Ford 10HP engine / generator (as fitted to Austin K6 and Diamond T 975 in 44-45; also fitted early war to Crossley IGL8 and Leyland Retriever).

In the foreground is a MkVII (without on-board generator); this is normally associated with RAF Thorneycroft Amazon, RAF AEC 0854 (with seperate Ford V8 generator) and RAF Leyland Retriever (image in following post).

I have heard that the Army also used MkVII on Leyland Retriever with generator driven by PTO (interesting because chassis also supposedly fitted with winch!) but have not seen complete photographic evidence; unril now? The tyres look big (13.50-20?) so this may be an Amazon, pity we can not see cab!

Les, my main question / request is: do you (or another forum member) have a late war (21st Army Group) image of a Leyland Retriever with Coles MkVII?

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Old 22-06-07, 17:22
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OK, so this is a post war shot of RAF Leyland Retriver Coles MkVII; did 21st Army Group use the same model in NW Europe?
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Old 22-06-07, 17:34
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Another Leyland Retriever, this time a pontoon body having already unloaded it's pontoons waiting to cross David (FBE) bridge with junction posts, rollers and grillage to start construction of Goliath (Bailey) bridge on far bank of River Seine.

I will order a clearer phot from IWM so that I can read formation signs!
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Old 22-06-07, 20:11
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Cant be boring or off subject David, this thread is what it says it is and is intended to cover all aspects of military bridging so keep going
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Old 22-06-07, 21:31
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David i,m looking at the Leylands but you will like this Thew Lorraine crane in British service constructing Bailey coponants
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Old 22-06-07, 22:04
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Les, Of equal interest is Ruston Bucyrus skimmer boom sitting in the foreground; also interesting to see what the squaddie is closing on the left - tail doors from QLT?

I will post a couple of Quickway shots tonight, otherwise early to bed - doctors orders!

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Old 22-06-07, 22:09
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Quickway on Corbitt 6x6 building M2 Treadway
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Old 22-06-07, 22:14
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Quickway on Corbitt offloading pneumatic pontoon for M2 Treadway; might be better if they used outriggers!
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Old 22-06-07, 22:16
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Quickway on Colman 4x4 chassis
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Old 22-06-07, 22:17
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Another Coleman chassis
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Old 22-06-07, 22:19
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Finally a pair of Quickway on Corbitt chassis
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Old 22-06-07, 23:09
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Good shots David i have a couple of them but not the 2 3 5 good to see others in this US series, your first shot of the Brockways unloading in the river is in Korea i have a bound manual on the US military engineer with a article on the construction and the same photo. Now some thing to make your eyes pop if you have not seen it before a prototype bedford QLC semi pontoon bridging unit, prehaps one of the reasons it never progressed is if it had the same permanent coupling as fitted to the GS version that did see production this would of course make the idea of dropping and returning for more semi trailers impossible
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