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ID trucks in Liverpool, 1944 please?
We have seen this photo before of course...Pearsons Ltd in Liverpool, 1944 with CMPs, Jeeps, White half-tracks, Diamond Ts, but can we identify please:
http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/query.jpg Last edited by David_Hayward (RIP); 06-07-03 at 15:04. |
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Re: ID trucks in Liverpool, 1944 please?
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Ref. your thread: FWD HAR-1 to Canadian/British orders |
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Borer?
I wonder if they were Canadian order or failing that L 4138835 to 4138840 for "Lorry Mounted Boring Machine"?
What are the tilt trucks please??? |
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Re: Borer?
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David, Which tilt trucks are you refering to? The ones in the foreground are Halftracks and there is a CMP 15cwt to the right. The Halftracks would be Internationals confirmed by the wings I am sure. Ref. the dumptruck I seem to remember seeing one of those in a Wheels & Tracks once and feel sure that it may be a Mack. There is also a Humber Light Recce there, which seems out of place as the rest of the vehicles are imports being prepared for issue (is that correct?). Richard |
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Dumpers
The two dumpers are those with bodies tilted...one is just inside the fence. The front end looks odd....
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Re: Dumpers
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Further thoughts
Yes, the snow-blower must be a FWDHAR-01 with the Climax R6 engine powering the Bros rotary plough. Thanks for that one!
The tippers are I suggest are L4688588 to L4688612 Mack "Lorry 10 ton 4 x 2 Tipping" to S/M 2813...but which model Mack? There is also a GMC 6 x 4 FC truck in the background...I wondered whether this was a rebuild to flat-bed on the obsolete AFWX-354 searchlight chassis abd then demobbed in 1944? The GMC tractors are 1940 units but I have no thoughts about them other than they must be lhd civilian, NC. |
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Re: 1940 GMC tractors
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I know a guy in the Netherlands who owns an unrestored one in quite remarkable condition. Sadly he scrapped the snow plough in his foolish young days, so there's no option now really other than restore it as a cargo truck. Quote:
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Not British WO
Hanno, the tractor units are not diverted stock that was acquired by the British War Office/Ministry of Supply, but could well be diverted civilian stock. I have records of Norwegian/Danish deliveries being seized as prize cargo and then auctioned in England. These are the only GMC Tractor units I have ever come across in the UK. I cannot find any references to a GMC AC-500 series Tractor...all the references are to Forward Control /COE units including the military AFX-502. I am pondering on whether these were rebuilds of GMC ACK-353 diverted trucks and then demobbed in 1944.
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FWD HAR-01
Did the snow blower have a Caterpillar engine at the rear? I have several photos of the trucks now and a rear shot shows a large boxed engine with rear-facing rad with what may be 'Caterpillar' script.
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Re: FWD HAR-01
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The FWD HAR-01 snow blower had a Climax engine mounted on the rear to power the equipment. Not to be confused with the British engine manufacturer, Coventry Climax, this Climax was built in the USA by a company associated with Waukesha Engines. Richard |
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GMC trucks
In the photo are a COE GMC, a NC GMC and two Tractor-trailers that we have discussed before. On the back of the trailers are two Caterpillar diesels powering Grain Elevators. The units are permanently mounted onto the semi-trailers! That solves that mystery.
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David:
I am really sorry to ask this, but can you repost the pic in a larger format? I have tried and tried with my lousy photo editing program to blow it up so I can see what the various vehicles really are without success. Bill
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Enlarged
..but worried about bandwith!
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Re: Enlarged
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I will regret this post, but David's original post of the pic, at least as it appears on my PC is about like my 64 year old nether member. All of us have posted "legal" sized pics that were 3-4 times that size, even including GWB and Hanno amongst others.
Just do it, and the devil take the hindmost. I doubt you will get banned for one picture post and if all else fails, delete it after a few weeks. Bill
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