restoration project waterbowser C15A 1943

[Guy Verstrepen]

Hey guys,

I found a storage chest of water browser in a barn in the Netherlands.
The man where I found them said that he had received them from a farmer where such a water browser had probably stayed behind in the war or just after it.

Greetings Guy

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Guy,

Nice find! I saw it advertised and thought it looked familiar....

Hanno

[Guy Verstrepen]

thanks Hanno.


I will soon add more pictures of the progress of the waterbowser.
in the meantime I am working with a company to produce replica water filters.

greetings Guy.

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

Hey guys,

I found a storage chest of water browser in a barn in the Netherlands.
The man where I found them said that he had received them from a farmer where such a water browser had probably stayed behind in the war or just after it.

Greetings Guy

Great find. What's that bit in your third photo? Looks like a handle that may rotate?

Owen.

[Guy Verstrepen]

yes indeed it can turn around.
I think it is to keep the doors of the stores locker open.

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

yes indeed it can turn around.
I think it is to keep the doors of the stores locker open.

Ah, of course! That would save many fingers.

[Guy Verstrepen]

hey guys

An update of the works here at the water bowser.
First some pictures of the 2nd skid plate that was on the gas tank.
These are now used as anti-skid plate to descend into the lubrication wells.

And further the situation up to now.

Cheers Guy

[Guy Verstrepen]

Here a series of images made on Friday 12/10/18

[Guy Verstrepen]

Here a series of images made on Friday 12/10/18

the next series of images taken here.
the tank will be installed on Monday

[Guy Verstrepen]

Here is a series of images the last as the situation is now.
for the installation of the water tank.

[Owen Evans]

Great work Guy!
I'm looking forward to seeing the tank in place.

Cheers,
Owen.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Nicely done, Guy! Please keep the pictures coming.

Alex

p.s. you have a really nice and roomy workshop, there!

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Nicely done, Guy! Please keep the pictures coming.

Alex

p.s. you have a really nice and roomy workshop, there!

thanks Alex
in the meantime the water tank has been put on it and it gives a nice picture

now connect the electricity and fuel pipes

[Guy Verstrepen]

A while ago I talked about making filters, the company I work with sent the first results, here are some pictures

[Guy Verstrepen]

and here a few more pictures. the material used is aluminum.
now some finishing and then I will show the complete result.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Here is an image of how the end result should be.
The top is different than usual on the waterbowser.
maybe after the war ???

[Mike Kelly]

Just wondering why the CMP water tanks appear to have UK made filters fitted. I'm still looking for a loan of a filter to measure up and hopefully make up a repro version as in those pics, aluminium is a good choice I think, although its not cheap .

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19457

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Just wondering why the CMP water tanks appear to have UK made filters fitted. I'm still looking for a loan of a filter to measure up and hopefully make up a repro version as in those pics, aluminium is a good choice I think, although its not cheap .

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=19457

I am fortunate to work in a large aluminum company
the filter that can be seen on the photo is made out of 3 parts.
the conical part is in a tube the top can also be placed in the tube.
The nice thing about the whole thing is that water can be pumped through it
the tube is 300 mm long and 160 mm diameter but can be shortened.
I think the diameter is slightly larger 150mm might be better but I do not have a tube of that size,
the other pieces can be found in the appendix.
if these are correct I do not know but the whole gives a nice look

[David Dunlop]

Very nice details to be able to replicate, Guy.

David

[Guy Verstrepen]

no problem if I can help someone just ask me if I have the sizes or something of ... examples I share them here with you.

[Mike Kelly]

Thanks for the drawings

I guess some CMP chassis were retrofitted with British bodies ( the 200 gallon water tank ? ) and various other British equipment . Thompson Brothers in the UK seemed to make the tanks for many applications both civilian and military. Link to the Bilston company.

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Thomps...thers_(Bilston)

and Aircraft fuel

http://www.aviationancestry.co.uk/?h...=ASC&pageNum=4

[Owen Evans]

Nice work Guy, I look forward to seeing the finished item.

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

Here is an image of how the end result should be.
The top is different than usual on the waterbowser.
maybe after the war ???

I think you are right. Note also that the filter powder filling port (the small pipe on the side of the main body) comes out at a 45-degree angle on the postwar filter. The wartime filter has a 90-degree bend. Note I have used the terminology "wartime" and "postwar", but it is quite possible that the taller top and 45-degree filling port could have even been a "late war" improvement for ease of manufacturing?

Owen.

[Owen Evans]

Update on the postwar filters. The attached sketches are from the 1954 handbook for the 200 gallon water tank. The filters are clearly quite different (and larger) than the picture Guy posted. For an idea of size, there is a picture of a postwar filter installed on a 100 gallon water trailer here (2nd posting, 3rd picture):

http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/14759-britis...tank-trailers/

So, my working theory is that the one in Guy's picture is 'late WW2'. At least until someone can confirm otherwise.

Owen.

[guy labbe]

Did found a filter in Normandy 2 years back, but is sold .

[Guy Verstrepen]

Originally Posted by guy labbe

Did found a filter in Normandy 2 years back, but is sold .

Unfortunately, I had some real examples to copy them.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Hey everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=SLjDkxU4Ms0

This link show a video how they cleaning te water for all soldiers at the front.


Greetings
Guy

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

Hey everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=SLjDkxU4Ms0

This link show a video how they cleaning te water for all soldiers at the front.


Greetings
Guy

Nice find Guy, thanks for posting!

Owen.

[Guy Verstrepen]

Hi guys
Yesterday I was very happy with another new addition, during the further cleaning up of the old garage I found a runnig board that are mounted on the side of the tank. hopefully original parts will be added to the further cleaning up


greetings Guy.

[Guy Verstrepen]

here on you tube I found a water pump and I think this model of power pump was on the cmp but powered by the pto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_cTEyzu0k

[Owen Evans]

Originally Posted by Guy Verstrepen

here on you tube I found a water pump and I think this model of power pump was on the cmp but powered by the pto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW_cTEyzu0k

Any thoughts on how the pump if fitted to the truck? Here's some photos of the British type, as fitted to a Bedford MWC (albeit it used the smaller Mono pump). You will note it runs off a gear-and-chain setup, not directly connected to the PTO. Was the Canadian pump directly connected to the PTO, or geared off it?

Photos are not mine, btw; they were posted on the HMVF site some time ago.

Owen.