good bye C60 hello ford fat

[Harlé Sylvain]

Hello
Has you maybe have seen, I sold my Chevrolet C60L
but it was for the good cause, this ford take his place!

It's an ford FAT cab 12 , I have a lot of work on this truck , but it's a lovely vehicule.
The mecanic seems to be ok but many parts are missing, (hood, doors,grill glass.....) and someone cut the roof!!!!!

Is it possible to have documentation for this vehicle?

REGARDS
Sylvain

[serge]

Hello

It seems that I know these truck. The top was cutted in the aim to be put in a shed in the south of PARIS. I think to have a pic of this truck in nORMANDY 1984 towing a limber and the associated GUN.

Next week I hope to found again the pic.

Bon courage pour la restauration.

Best REGARD SERGE

[Harlé Sylvain]

Hello
Yes it's possible,it cames near paris, I dont know exactly what arrived to this poor truck, but I thing it was certainly quickly restored one time.
I will be happy to see the picture if you find it!

Merci d'avance
Sylvain

[Niels V]

Congratulations with, a bit of a project but the remaining looks to be in a good condition.
I think this is an old picture of it.
Does anyone know how different is a Ford Quad body from a Chevy

[serge]

Hello

It was not for "NORMANDY 84" but 10 years later and with an accurate examination of the rear of the truck you will find your new baby

Best regards Serge

[Harlé Sylvain]

Thank you two for this pictures ,it's nice!

But poor truck ! what happends ? I think it is this truck ,looking after the red reflectors and the camouflage.

[serge]

Hello

I know the sad story of these truck. Some month before NORMANDY 94 the truck was buy in ENGLAND and the new owner (a french guy) like to do money with old military truck and also mechanic.

As the price requested was very high he cuts the top of the truck in the aim to be stores in a shed. He hoped that time passing the price will follow but helas for him it was not the case. (en français cela serait plus simple)

Au plaisir Serge

[Harlé Sylvain]

OK!!!
C'est vrai qu'en francais ce serai plus simple pour moi aussi!!
It is amasing to see a truck with such a live.

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Great project, it's sad to see how it was wrecked, but Still a great truck to complete! Is there any chance to find the roof, doors or other parts?
Good luck!
Frankie

[Harlé Sylvain]

Hello
thank you frankie

I think the doors and the roof will be impossible to find (in europe) But they are not very difficult do built , the body is made of square tubes, but its many hours job.

Im just begining to clean the truck, and then I hope I will find a member which can give me some dimentions.

regards
Sylvain

[Niels V]

Dont give up hope completely on finding the parts (doors etc.) if the body are the same as on a Chevy, odd things can be found in Norway.

Just let us know what dimensions you need, I can take measurements of my rebuild and my unrestored CGT cab 12's and I know that there are other very helpful gun tractor owners on here.

cheers Niels

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Harlé Sylvain

Hello
I think the doors and the roof will be impossible to find (in europe) But they are not very difficult do built , the body is made of square tubes, but its many hours job.

Im just begining to clean the truck, and then I hope I will find a member which can give me some dimentions.
regards
Sylvain

Hi,

I thought the original ones cut from your truck.... I know about few cab 12 FGTs, I PM you details...
I need few dimensions for a FGT, too, but cab 13... http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=23280

Frankie

[Harlé Sylvain]

HI
I see you will also have to work on your truck too

Here is a picture of the roof found on internet, what do you think about ?
Is the fine steel cross original , I ofen seen a big round tube cross?

Can someone give me the dimentions of this opening?


regards
Sylvain

[Niels V]

I might get time in the weekend, so I could measure mine.
both mine have a tube cross about 0.5 inch in diameter.
I might have found a nose in Norway

[Harlé Sylvain]

HELLO
It would be nice if you could give me this sizes :
can you also give me the hight of the windshield

[Harlé Sylvain]

What do you think about the rear body and the boxes
All the rear body looks very homemade, bad weldings, different size of steel...
Is this rear body and boxes original or was it badly restaured?

Regards
Sylvain

[Niels V]

Hi Sylvain
It looks like a rebuild rear end, but of the right design.
The hatchs have the correct shape but the way they are constructed are not correct, I have attached a picture of how they schould look, they are made of one folded sheet.
I have also attached a picture of when mine was rebuild back in the early nineties.
The weld of sheet to the frame on mine is originally very crude, have attached a picture, so dont be to worried about that.

[Harlé Sylvain]

Thank you very much for this pics!
I think the walls are original and the inner was rebuit.
I will have to changes some steel plates and weld some kilometers!!

Regards
Sylvain

[Niels V]

Know the feeling, if I dont get this sold.
I have a lot more pictures if you need.

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Niels V

The hatchs have the correct shape but the way they are constructed are not correct-they are made of one folded sheet.

Please - are the hatches the same design on cab 13 FATs?
Thank you
Frankie

[Niels V]

From what I have seen the rear body of a Cab 12 and Cab 13 gun tractor, look very identical. But I havent measured a cab 13 to confirm it.
Maybe some of our Cab13 CGT owners can help?

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Niels V

From what I have seen the rear body of a Cab 12 and Cab 13 gun tractor, look very identical. But I havent measured a cab 13 to confirm it.
Maybe some of our Cab13 CGT owners can help?

Sorry, I thought the style of the doors, not the dimensions... that thay are made of one piece folded sheet.. I won't hack this thread anymore, will ask somewhere else
Frankie

[Maurice Donckers]

Yes construction of the doors is the same . The doors are not made out of 1 piece , it is a flat piece folded over with a triple folded piece in it , do you get it ? , not so easy to make the folded piece . modern folding machines are pressing from the top , and won`t work .

[Frantisek Nachlinger]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

Yes construction of the doors is the same . The doors are not made out of 1 piece , it is a flat piece folded over with a triple folded piece in it , do you get it ? , not so easy to make the folded piece . modern folding machines are pressing from the top , and won`t work .

Thank you, yes, I think I did get it. Happy to knoe people with 1930's machines

[Niels V]

Hi
Here are the measurements of the hatches on my CGT.
They might vary a bit from vehicle to vehicle.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Sylvain,

Great project, sad to hear it was butchered for the wrong reasons.

The bodies were manufactured by independent body manufacturers and could be fitted to either Ford or Chevrolet chassis.

The following scan may be of some help for its reconstruction:

[Alex van de Wetering]

Sylvain,

Congrats! That's a nice truck. It always hurts to see a truck a neglected truck.... that was once on the show circuit. But, you have a good base there to build up a nice truck again.

Hanno helped me to measure up a FAT body for RichCam a few years ago, but sadly that truck was pretty beaten up and missing the rear section of the body. If they are of any help, I can dig up what we measured, but I am sure Niels' complete truck will give more detailed info.

I bought some Chev cab 11 parts from a guy in France a few months ago; he still has some things, but sadly no front panelwork that i know of. I can send his email-address to you by PM if you like.

You can find NOS headlights at LWDparts in Holland. LWDparts also have NOS Chev grille surrounds for the Cab11....I think You could use this for a cab 12 with some work on the upper edges (?).

Alex

[Niels V]

Alex
If you have the measurements please do dig them out it could be fun to see how much they vary.
cheers Niels

[Harlé Sylvain]

hello
Thank you both for your helps on this project,
I'm just back from belgium, I was there to visit an very nice member of this forum ,wich help me to complete my truck !

On the road We visit many remember places from WWI and WWII we also visit the canadian memorial of Vimy, still always impressed fast 100 years after!!!


In the next days I will clean the rear of the truck , I remove fast all the compartiment , they were only glued with a few bad welding points
here are some pictures of the truck with is new nose!

Regards
Sylvain

[Alex van de Wetering]

Silvain,

I guess I was tired yesterday, as I hadn't noticed your FAT is a Ford ....not a Chev...so my suggestion for the grille surround was a bit misleading.....as for Ford use you would also have had to modify the air inlets from Chev mesh to Ford louvres. Anyway, I am glad you already have the parts needed in the meantime, Well done!

@ Niels. Will do. I will try to dig up the material, this weekend.

Alex