MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 19-11-18, 18:54
Jon Bradshaw's Avatar
Jon Bradshaw Jon Bradshaw is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 264
Default Are there any Dutchmen left?

Are there any Dutchman tanks left out there in need of restoration? I made a repro of the Latvian one here in Canada because there was no chance of finding one over here. The turret you are recovering is a small piece to start building a tank around but it could be done. People have done more with less.

The original question about what the differences are in the tanks from 33-37 seems to be the preference of the Country that they were destined for. Different headlights, turret, radiator covers and the like are the obvious things. I spent many months pouring over the internet for research before I made my build. The differences inside are not well documented anywhere I could see. The Swiss one (pictured earlier in this thread) had it's entire engine bay cleared out and they left it open (fire wall removed) so when you look inside it is a very spacious hull! Argentinian hulls have a different radiator opening at the back with a pronounced sheet metal cover over the "steps" where the rad blows out the hot air.
__________________
Many projects.....
Complete- Ford F8 truck
Complete-1956 Mk 2/3 Ferret
Complete- Bofors 40mm on carriage
Complete Reproduction- Vickers, Model 1937 Tank
Waiting restoration- 1950 Cambridge carrier, Ford CMP Water truck, 1943 Universal carrier, 1945 Dodge APT truck, Canadian C3 Howitzer, several parts vehicles and a few ideas.....
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 20-11-18, 19:52
eddy8men eddy8men is offline
AKA Rick Wedlock
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: manchester
Posts: 715
Default

i'm lucky that we have an example at the tank museum, so a visit is on the cards.
__________________
_______________________
1941 mk1 mortar Carrier
1941 Mk1* Carrier
1942 Mk1* Carrier
1943 T16 Carrier
1945 Mk3 Dingo
1941 Mk3 Covenanter
1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold)
1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold)
1952 Mk3 Centurion
1952 ARV Centurion
1952 ARV Centurion
1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking)
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 25-11-18, 22:24
colin jones's Avatar
colin jones colin jones is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 1,810
Default

That would be a great project and certainly a wonderful find. You just never know Rick, the bottom part might just turn up. Well done.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 02-12-18, 11:35
eddy8men eddy8men is offline
AKA Rick Wedlock
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: manchester
Posts: 715
Default

might have a lead on the hull.
last year i acquired some vickers light hull plates and frame but gave them away to a chap that was keen to do light tank, should have kept them
__________________
_______________________
1941 mk1 mortar Carrier
1941 Mk1* Carrier
1942 Mk1* Carrier
1943 T16 Carrier
1945 Mk3 Dingo
1941 Mk3 Covenanter
1941 Mk4 Churchill AVRE (now sold)
1944 Mk6 Cromwell (now sold)
1952 Mk3 Centurion
1952 ARV Centurion
1952 ARV Centurion
1953 Mk3 Centurion (breaking)
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 23-11-20, 11:55
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,400
Default Model 1936 "Dutchman"

That site has not tagged this as such, but this is a Model 1936 for the Dutch order - read more about the "Dutchman" in use with the Netherlands East Indies here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
Picture from a works album from Vickers Armstrong Ltd:

Click image for larger version

Name:	15440531_1828245764055546_7657587750454468756_o.jpg
Views:	2
Size:	222.8 KB
ID:	117596
http://tankdevelopment.blogspot.co.u...foreign_8.html
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 13-10-21, 21:30
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,400
Default

Vickers-Carden-Loyd advert for the version sold to Latvia:

Click image for larger version

Name:	A86C10DA-1C19-44F9-9F2F-93B9BC9EFACC.jpeg
Views:	7
Size:	486.0 KB
ID:	125119


And a “Dutchman”:

Click image for larger version

Name:	766153C6-3BED-4C6C-B927-AB6B6566DE0F.jpeg
Views:	5
Size:	356.1 KB
ID:	125127

Via Craig Moore
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 14-10-21, 06:21
zemsi's Avatar
zemsi zemsi is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 865
Default Swiss Panzerwagen 34/35

Here are the technical details of the Swiss Panzerwagen 34/35:
https://militaerfahrzeuge.ch/unterka..._13_10_43.html

There are two survivors, one in the "Sammlung historische Panzer" in Thun (partially restored, no engine), the other one disassembled, waiting for restoration in Burgdorf.


Vickers 34 M-7305
by Massimo Foti
__________________
Swiss Chris aka Christoph Zimmerli - Driving Switzerland's only Aussie F15


www.wheelsandtracks.com
>> Condor A580 M+85691 (1952), Swiss Army Motorbike (unrestored)
>> F15 1942 Aust (Cab 13) ::: restored by Keefy
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 14-10-21, 06:57
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,400
Default

Hello Chris!

Good to see you back, hope all is well with you.

I know of the two survivors as you stated, I thought 7305 was the runner and 7304 the donor but I understand it will be the other way.

Also found the Swiss VCL tanks listed here: http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving...dium_Tanks.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 14-10-21, 08:05
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,400
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
See http://gallery.vondur.net/v/industri...02165.jpg.html for a picture of another survivor, in this case one of eighteen Vickers 4-ton tanks purchased in 1935 by Latvia. This one is one of six cannon-armed M1937, which were not delivered until 1938. This was the only survivor of the Soviet takeover of 1940 and the "Great Patriotic War" (WW2). Today it is resting at Kubinka tank museum where a sign tells that it's a "Latvian export tank".
Sole survivor of the Latvian order, “No. 204” then & now:

Click image for larger version

Name:	A2B39BF8-172B-4128-939C-2F38B63E5605.jpeg
Views:	4
Size:	221.6 KB
ID:	125133 Click image for larger version

Name:	71F11C49-6154-4A99-913F-499BBD538149.jpg
Views:	4
Size:	481.9 KB
ID:	125134
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:21.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016