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Old 23-03-19, 18:41
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Exclamation Rare early Canadian 20-cwt trailer

I am first offering my Canadian 20-cwt for sale here on MLU.

This is a rare Canadian-built 20-cwt trailer and one of only a handful left. It is of early composite construction and (as far as I know) the only survivor which still has the original wood riveted to the steel frame (not bolted as seen on some restorations).

Shortly after WW2, it was supplied by Canada to the Norwegian Army. It was sold as surplus to a military vehicle dealer in the Netherlands in the 1980s. I am the second civilian owner. It has always been stored indoors, first in Army reserve depots and the last 35 years by collectors in the Netherlands. So it remains in as-found, peeling paint condition.

Currently in deep storage which does not lend itself well to photography. Therefore I have attached a photo of approx 15 years ago when I bought it. It is still in the same unrestored condition. You're welcome to come and view it.

I am open to offers. Due to it's rarity, I expect it is at least worth twice the going rate for a Ben Hur trailer. Please contact me via email. I may be interested in a (partial) trade on a Canadian or British 10-cwt trailer.

Thanks for your interest!

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Old 25-03-19, 19:22
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Hi Hanno

No I am not asking you to ship it to Canada...... but would if I could afford it.

However, due to its rarity and the fact that I have such a spare frame wheels, springs and all .....would it be possible to document, for all MLU members, the size/dimensions of the box and get as many pictures as possible of the 4 sides and close-ups of the various hardware....fenders spacing, etc.

I realize it is in dry storage right now but whenever you pull it out for the new owner.... who I hope will be a MLU member...... could a photo shoot be possible.

Between Grant skills and determination and my patience I am sure we could do a faithful repro.

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Old 26-03-19, 14:31
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However, due to its rarity and the fact that I have such a spare frame wheels, springs and all .....would it be possible to document, for all MLU members, the size/dimensions of the box and get as many pictures as possible of the 4 sides and close-ups of the various hardware....fenders spacing, etc.

I realize it is in dry storage right now but whenever you pull it out for the new owner.... who I hope will be a MLU member...... could a photo shoot be possible.
Hello Bob, will try to document the box as best as I can.

BTW: it can be flat-packed quite easily, so shipping it back home to Canada would not cost a fortune...

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Old 26-03-19, 23:37
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....flat enough for a large envelope??????

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Old 27-03-19, 01:56
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And a very large Mailman?

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Old 27-03-19, 03:13
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Do you have a picture of the IKEA builder's plate?
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Old 03-04-19, 13:16
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Do you have a picture of the IKEA builder's plate?
All kidding aside, they did come flat packed and with instructions on how to unpack the box and assemble the trailer!
See http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...669#post259669 for a recently unearthed steel bodied trailer which has never been assembled.

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Old 03-04-19, 13:24
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Default wartime references

For your reference, here are the photos and data sheet of the "20-cwt GS Trailer Body Composite Construction" from the AEDB Design Record:

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Old 03-04-19, 15:20
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Hanno , are the troop seats still present in your trailer ? By looking at your reference material i noticed they had troop seats installed in this very nice trailer Cheers . Robert
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Old 03-04-19, 15:55
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Hanno , are the troop seats still present in your trailer ? By looking at your reference material i noticed they had troop seats installed in this very nice trailer
Hello Robert,

If you read the "Function" section in the AEDB, one will note: "This vehicle was designed, primarily, to carry petrol in tins, in two (2) tiers. To this end, a second floor was put into the body, being so designed that it was divided longitudinally, into two (2) halves, each folding back against the upper portion of the side panels and strapped into position, when not in use."

My trailer does not have the second, foldable floor. I have never seen this floor on any surviving examples, and wartime pictures show them in use as General Service trailers exclusively. So I wonder if they were ever actually used to carry petrol tins?

HTH,
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Old 03-04-19, 20:06
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Thank you Hanno for the very interesting information . Nice picture !
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Old 26-09-19, 08:40
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After being busy with the XXX Corps tour, it is time to bring this to your attention again.

I am asking 2,950.- Let me know if you need more information.

Thanks for looking.

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Old 26-09-19, 17:31
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Default Folding floor

I can tell by my trailer that it never had the folding floors installed, and the unassembled one that Jeff Davis came across (35 after mine was built) did not even have them in the crate.
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Old 28-09-19, 15:06
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I can tell by my trailer that it never had the folding floors installed, and the unassembled one that Jeff Davis came across (35 after mine was built) did not even have them in the crate.
Harry, thanks for that observation confirming my thoughts on this subject.

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Old 28-09-19, 15:19
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Three quarter view of 20-cwt trailer - then & now:

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Old 30-09-19, 14:48
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Old 12-12-19, 21:34
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Back to top.

Offers and (partial) exchanges / trades invited.


Added a page from Canadian Military Headquarters. Vehicle Data Book (Restricted). 1944.

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