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Old 06-11-12, 19:15
Svenn Ryen Svenn Ryen is offline
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Default Oil filter housing and brackets

Hi- for my Chevrolet C15A i am looking for a complete oil filter housing with all brackets for attaching it to the engine/clutch housing.

Need it shipped to Norway

Svenn
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Old 10-11-12, 09:43
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Default flexible oil lines

Does anyone have the length and set up for the flexible oil lines from the filter?

Are replacements available anywhere?


And does anyone have meassurments for the oil filter engine bracket? close up pics?

Thanks

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Old 10-11-12, 22:08
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Default Want to confirm which oil filter

Hi Svenn

Want to confirm which oil filter unit you need information on. One is vertically mounted. It is the later design but there were service bulletins on installing them as replacements on the earlier trucks.

Oil Filter info4.jpg

or the one mounted in the frame rail
Oil Filter info1.jpg

From what you are describing I think you want the vertically mounted unit which is the later design it is a large filter unit and uses a larger filter cartridge sometimes called large military standard. Having said that I have also seen the smaller older style filter unit relocated and mounted vertically.

The horizontal mounted filters are a pain to change and being mounted so low and out of sight, I suspect, in service they may have been overlooked. Plus there was no way to drain them to remove any water without dumping the contents completely. From my reading the relocation was to in part improve the heating of the oil to help drive off any condensation in the oil instead of providing a place for it to collect. But the filter housing could be easily drained by removing the plug at the bottom.

Now as to your question yes the flexible lines are available I'll look up the part numbers. I've bought them within the last 2 years.

There several pictures of the oil filter mounting on http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/H...INE%20WORK.htm

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Old 11-11-12, 08:06
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Hi Phil

Yes- it the later vertically mounted type. I have the large standard military filter but no bracket.

Thanks for the pictures. Seem like a quite easy bracket to make, except for the "groove"(not sure what it called ) in the plate.

Does anyone have the meassurements for it? Outside dimmensions and plate thickness?

As for oil lines, numbers would be great. Thanks for helping me!!

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Old 12-11-12, 04:51
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Default Pictures....

Here are pictures from my library.....

Phil..... where did you get the funny reversed flare lines..... called "Weather???

We have a bracket in the barn...... can take more Pictures and measurements...

You will also need to find the brass block that connects the steel line normal flare to the pump/sump and the special flare on the top side to match the flex lines....

You will need two special head bolts that have the head drilled and tapped for the bolts of the bracket.....

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Old 12-11-12, 10:39
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Thanks Bob for the pictures.

I have the brass block and lines to it. Just missing the flexible lines. These are easy to get manufacutered, but how long are these overall?

Meassurements of the bracket would be perfect.

I plan to make those bolts from ordinary head bolts if I dont manage to get hold of these - how tall is the head on these bolts?

Cheers

Svenn
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Old 26-11-12, 21:54
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Default Oil Filter Housing C-15A

Svenn,

Based on the replies, I dug around in a surplus box of engine components and I found what I think you are looking for.

I'll send you a PM.

Regards, Richard
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Old 26-11-12, 21:59
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Default I'm confirming the fitting numbers

Hi All

I've ordered some of the fittings which I think are the correct size, seemed to be the only way to be sure they matched. They should be in this week so once I get them I'll let you know the numbers.

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Old 14-01-13, 21:55
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Default Confirming the fitting numbers

Hi All

Sorry for the long delay but the fittings of course got back ordered then I for got to post them.

The Flex lines to the oil filter body are as previously mention -Weatherhead/Eaton dug out the part numbers, the flex lines are Eaton 81430-16 and 81430-12 last two digits are the length so you can get the exact length after all the other fittings and lines are in place. NAPA number is WH 8143016 and WH813012 again last two digits are the length.

The Inverted 1/4" tube flare Attachment 53254 is WH6100x4 or Eaton 6100x4 straight connector is 6200x4 and Elbow is 6400X4

The best source of brass fitting information I have found that are current is http://www.eaton.com/ecm/groups/publ...dev_216279.pdf it is a PDF document so you can use your PDF search feature (open document then Ctrl F) to search a fitting if you know the Eaton or Weatherhead part number. If you don't know the part number which is normal go to Brass Products starting on page 25 - 57 for pictures and dimensions with part numbers. Then jump down to pages 100-108 for the next section containing fittings used on CMPs.


Hope this help

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Old 14-01-13, 22:56
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Default shipping issue

Thanks Phil.

Only need to find a place that ships NAPA parts overseas. Napaonline only ships within 48 upper states

Any advice or source apriciated.

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Old 14-01-13, 23:52
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Hi Sven

I take it that you have already procured a filter body and mounting bands but this information may be of use to others.
The filter shown in the Phil's linked HUP photos and Bob's thumbnails appears to be the military senior filter unit as used on the G-508 GMC CCKW 352 and 353. As such they should be available from suppliers of parts for these vehicles.

The filter element itself is quite readily available. I have cartons of them.

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Old 15-01-13, 15:17
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Thanks Phil.

Only need to find a place that ships NAPA parts overseas. Napaonline only ships within 48 upper states

Any advice or source apriciated.

Svenn

Hi Svenn

http://www.fastenal.com/web/location...nal&country=NL is the Fastenal Company they sell Eaton fittings.

If that doesn't work let me know and I look around.

I will also ask my local independent NAPA store owner if he knows any one who has set himself up to sell overseas.

Cheers Phil
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