C60L in Argentina

[m606paz]

Hi Fellows

I come to the knowledge of you to learn more about this truck

These are the C60L dataplates that is here in Argentina, to be restored.

The cargo box, dumper, it seems to be NO original to this truck. It should be a post-war modification for civilian use.

The data displayed in the dataplate, indicate what type of cargo box was installed on this vehicle?

Here the pics









Thanks in advance

Regards

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Thank you for the data! I have found another, similar truck:

CHASSIS MODEL: C-60448-M-W
CAB MODEL: 13
CHASSIS SERIAL: 3844335164
ENGINE SERIAL: PR3970483
ORDER: PE-197-11
MAY 4-44

Note built just under a calendar month later!

This might have been another:
Serial 3844335064


These are of course Australian contracts: how did they get to Argentina? I know of a 1945 Holden-assembled C15A 'now in South America' asembled under PE-205-63.

[m606paz]

Hi David!

Thanks for the quick reply!

We believe these trucks came from Europe, perhaps in Belgium, between 1947 and 1949.

You know what is the correct cargo box that carries this truck? Some pictures and details?

Thanks in advance

Cheers

[Grant Bowker]

Originally Posted by David_Hayward

These are of course Australian contracts: how did they get to Argentina?

My guess is that at the end of the war deliveries to Australia stopped (or were cut back) and that the trucks were either kept in Canada, there are several known cases of this, or delivered as military aid to a variety of countries.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

It is just that these are Australian contracts, and were assembled in Australia in 1944/1945. Somehow they were exported to S America post-war. I wonder if, as with the UK, enterprising people bought-up and shipped military vehicles for civilian use. Argentina was of course a member of the United Nations (an ally) and I wonder if the US acquired vehicles and had them shipped to S America for allied forces after the war?

[Keith Webb]

That is definitely NOT an Australian assembled Chevrolet.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

G'day Keith! My database showed a number of Holden-assembled CMPs with PE- etc contracts.

However, you must be right in the sense that the plate shows that it was not a CKD job (which carried a Holden sequential number) and usually a plant code. I stand corrected and suggest that it was a SUP import to Australian order, and not assembled per se. The serial number is in the Oshawa sequence, and lack a plant code as well.

Thanks for pointing out the wrong choice of words.

[Bob Carriere]

Hi David

Do you remember the PE 197 12 series we posted previously on MLU.... most were Aug. Sept. 44 but the -12 series had small C15a axles and 16 inch rims

It seems possible that the PE 197 11 series contract preceeded the other Aussie contract and were all built in Oshawa.

Strange where CMP show up........

Bob C.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Examples:


GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA LTD
OSHAWA, CANADA
VEHICLE MODEL: C-60448-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 4844303231
ENGINE SERIAL PR3998204
ORDER NO PE-197-12
DATE OF MFG: SEPT 18-44


GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA LTD
OSHAWA, CANADA
VEHICLE MODEL C-60448-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 4844303239
ENGINE SERIAL PR3998543
ORDER No. PE-197-12
DATE OF MFG. SEPT 19.44.


GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA LTD
OSHAWA, CANADA
VEHICLE MODEL C-60448-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 4844303731
ENGINE SERIAL PR4000888
ORDER NO PE-197-12
DATE OF MFG: SEPT 29-44

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by m606paz

You know what is the correct cargo box that carries this truck? Some pictures and details?

Hi Mariano,

Great find! Attached are some pictures of the standard GS (General Service) cargo box for the C60L (and F60L). Possibly the tipper body can be converted into something that looks like the standard GS body.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

[m606paz]

Thanks for the info and pics Hanno!!

Maybe the actual tipper body can be an original GS body...

Regards