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Old 11-08-16, 11:17
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Fortunately when he got the ambulance from Ray, he got an extra part cab from a Carryall which had been converted into a pick up. Ray had used part of this cab to repair his own ambulance and Jake got the remains. Fortunately by unpicking this pick up cab we could get the panels needed to repair the ambulance.
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Old 11-08-16, 11:36
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This part cab was not without its own problems. The cowl and dash was missing but the ambulance had a good complete ones that could be reused. The top part of the windscreen was better on the part cab which meant I could sacrifice that top section when separating from the ambulance roof. The front floor corners of each had one good side. The right from the part cab and the left from the ambo. The best firewall was in the part cab as was the best left side panel. That meant I could cut the front left floor section from the ambo without worrying about saving any of the surrounding sheetmetal. The part cab supplied the door frames. The part cab had a better transmission cover panel. .
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Old 11-08-16, 11:43
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The front left corner above after being cut out was stripped of the unwanted metal and then spent a couple of days in the electrolysis bath to ensure all the rust between the seams was eliminated. Then treated with fishoil. Next the front cab was cut under the seam where the windscreen joins the roof. The floor was cut and the whole lot removed.
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Old 11-08-16, 11:55
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As the rear cab pillars were being replaced I could remove them by cutting the welds and cutting them into smaller pieces and paring away. The amount of rust inside the pillars almost filled them.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:01
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Comparing the two floors revealed the part cab to have the best transmission cover and the best floor would come from using the part cab front and the ambo rear and grafted the two together as well as adding some new metal where the rust on both floors was equally bad.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:11
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The bottom section of both cab pillars of both cabs were rusted out so neither could be used. This area required new metal. I welded sheetmetal braces on to the part cab pillars to support and brace them until sandblasting and repair. The cowel and dash and inner windscreen panel were all unpicked and cleaned up of excess metal. The part cab was similarly stroipped of unwanted metal. I left the upper part of the windscreen panel on the part car until refitting so I could line up exactly where I wanted to cut it and rejoin to the cowel and windscreen pillars. This was all shipped off for sandblasting.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:15
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The sandblaster I use primes only in two pack primer which I find a pain to remove when welding so I get the steel blasted only and prime in red oxide which is more mig friendly.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:18
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Jake blew a coat of primer over it all and did a quick assembly.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:33
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Before I could start repairing the cab I need to make room in the shed to work. Best way was to stand the rear body on its rear end but I decided to remove the roof first and get that out of the way as it made the body too long to stand up and the front part unsupported was a bit too flimsy. The roof is only tack welded with arc welds every few inches externally. Unfortunately I could not access the welds to grind them away. I found the only way was to get a small drill bit and drill around the wled and then chisel between the holes. A tedious job but it caused the least distortion to the remaining solid metal. I supported the roof with a couple of planks and lifted it up with a chain block.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:46
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The roof was carried outside and the rear body stood up. From that position I was able to remove the entire floor which also needs replacing and unpick the welds holding the rear guards. The guards only need sandblasting and a tidy up and they can be refitted. The frame the body had been sitting on was then able to be used to position the cab to work on. First I welded some more sheetmetal to the frame to keep the pillars in situ. Then the rear floor sections were cut and matched up and repaired.
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Old 11-08-16, 12:54
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The floor still has a few pin holes from sandblasting where the rust had penetrated through but a bit of filler at the end will take care of that and it isn't in spots where strength is essential. Next I rebuilt the bottoms of the rear pillars.
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Old 11-08-16, 13:12
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Next was adding the front left floor section. i decided to take a bit more off it to get rid of the large rusted hole. This meant taking the floor from the A pillar. This was braced to prevent movement and the new pieces added.
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Old 11-08-16, 13:19
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Before I added the floor piece I had to attach the cowl and noticed then that the front left A pillar was not straight. Using a small winch I was able to pull it straight.
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Old 11-08-16, 13:23
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There was a few cracks in the firewall that required welding. No doubt these are caused by vibration coming up through the steering column. I will add some rubber between the steering column and the firewall when reassembling which might help prevent this reoccuring. I did drill some holes in the ends of the cracks before welding. It might help.
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Old 17-08-16, 10:44
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A few photos of the the cab as is now. Filler needs tidying up but you can see where the two halves of the windscreen were joined.
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Old 17-08-16, 10:54
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The inside panel of the upper windscreen cannot be added until the roof is rejoined to the cab. The piece of wood holding the windscreen gap will need to stay till that panel is added as the panel wants to twist down and close the gap by a few millimetres
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Old 17-08-16, 10:59
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A few photos of the rear body at this stage. Guards and roof and floor removed. A section of the top gutter will need replacing and the rear corner near the fuel filler. Otherwise it should sand blast up ok.
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Old 14-02-17, 05:49
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It's been a while since we updated the ambo thread but in that time Jake has been making some progress on the mechanical side of things.
Gearbox and transfer case have been rebuilt and things are being sorted with the engine and radiator.

The body and roof were loaded up and taken in for sand blasting this week.
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Old 14-02-17, 06:37
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WOW that's quite the project you have going there, I don't think I would ever tackle something with that much rust in it. Keep up the great work it gives me hope when it comes time to restore mine.
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Old 14-02-17, 08:06
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What a crazy job!
I have one WC54 if you need some picture or other informations ,it will be with pleasure.
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Old 27-02-17, 00:57
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Rear body back from the sandblasters and survived rather well. There are a few areas to be repaired but it is still very straight and mostly solid. New floor with new ribs welded in.
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Old 04-03-17, 09:48
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The rear guards are reasonably solid but a little out of shape on the edges. I bent a piece of solid bar in the press to the correct radius to use as a dolly.
G clamps and a bit of hammer and heat.
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Old 30-03-17, 13:34
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The cab received a little more attention just tidying up a few more imperfections and dents and a bit of filler and putty on the cowl to hide some deeper rust scarring. I then gave it a cost of fishoil and sealed the seams and gaps with butyl mastic. Once it dries it is ready for painting.
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Old 30-03-17, 13:43
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I have started on the rear box. It is missing the rearmost cross member and this has allowed the rear sides to twist outward a little. I need to repair the rear left corner which has been damaged and is too difficult to repair so I have opted to put a new patch in. This would weaken the sides even more so before I cut the damaged section out I welded up some scrap at right angles and clamped them top and bottom to square the sides up before any further interference.
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Old 30-03-17, 13:54
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I had a patch folded to match the bottom folds of the corner and then cut out the damaged section. The top of the patch joins at the bottom of the side rib which should give it enough support to stop the weld distorting the repair. The front of the patch weld will be hidden under the pioneer tool rack as indicated by the chalk line.
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Old 30-03-17, 13:57
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It still needs a bit more work which I will tidy up when the other patches are done.
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Old 30-03-17, 14:09
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Another patch was required on the lower front right area where a cross member end had rotted away. The porta power was required to keep the sides apart.
It was a little bit tricky turning the box over but luckily my trusty gantry is there to assist. It will need rolling around a bit more before I am finished.
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Great work, Jack. Love it when people post detailed accounts of their work. With lots of pictures!
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Old 01-04-17, 10:24
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the top right section has a badly rotted channel piece which forms the outer gutter. The rust had eaten it away for virtually its entire length. Condensation would be the cause and being a left hand drive vehicle it is worse on the right side than the right, probably due to being parked on the right hand side of roads. Just me guess.
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Old 01-04-17, 13:22
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The outer gutter could not be removed from the inner rotten part as it is all one folded piece. I spent a day cutting this piece in half length ways and cutting and grinding all the excess away. The back corner reinforcement needed some attention as well.
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