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Old 08-11-05, 06:08
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Default Armoured radio battery box

As promissed to Mike a few weeks ago here are some measurments of the armoured radio battery box.

The two side plates
Length = 17 5/16"
Height = 11 3/16"

The rear plate
Length = 16 1/2"
Height = 11 1/2"

Thickness of both is 3/16"

The lid is the same lenght as the side plates. It has it two edges bent to over hang the sides plate by about 1". Its thickness is 1/8"

Mike I will have more for you in the next few days.
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Thanks Jordan, this makes it alot easyer, Cheers BIG MIKE
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Old 08-12-05, 04:14
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Mike and all

Here is a picture of what both side plates should look like.

The dimensions are

Length = 17 5/16"
Height = 11 3/16"

All the rivets are 3/4" of an inch in from the edges. The side ones are 1 1/2" from the top to its center and then 4" and 4". The ones along the bottom are from left to right as follows. 2" in from the edge, then to the next one is 3 1/2", 3 1/4" 3 1/4", 3 1/2"

The right side hole is 3" down from the top edge and 2" over.
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Old 08-12-05, 04:19
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Here is the back plate. This one has the POL carreir bolted to it.

The dimensions are
Length = 16 1/2"
Height = 11 1/2"

The hole spacing is 1/2" from the sides. The spaing going from top to bottom is 3/4", then the rest are each 3 3/16" from the centers.
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Old 08-12-05, 04:24
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Here is a picture of the inside.

The angle iron has been lettered so that you can cut them to the same size. My recommendation is to just cut to fit. I woudl put in the "A" first. The the two "c" and then the three "B"
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THANKYOU JORDAN, SANTAS GOING TO BE GOOD TO YOU THIS YEAR , CHEERS MATE


HAPPY BIG MIKE
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hi all, Anyone know what size is the internal angle iron on these boxs?.

cheers.
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Old 14-04-09, 00:18
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I think its the same as the rest of the carrier. Should be 1/4" thick and 1 1/4" x 1 1/4"
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Hi, A couple of questions on Jordans info on the armoured battery box, The side plate rivets, 3/4" to the rivet centre or side of the rivet?. the internal angle iron 1 1/4" by 3/16" thick?. What are the measurements for the internal piece of angle iron with the cutouts in?. The side rivets are they 5/16" hammered flat on the inside?. finally the back plate screw holes, seem to have a threaded part welded on the angle iron, was this just on the back plate and not on the front angle iron for attaching to the carrier?.

oh,,,,,,also location holes for mag cherger box also, distance from rear please.

has any one got a couple of lid catches, just the bit attached to the lid laying around for trade please.

thanks kevin.
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Old 24-08-09, 10:00
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Hi all, finally got my battery box made, used this thread with additional information from Jordan Baker and Bruce Parker, Bruce really helped me out and got me some spot on drawings and pictures. Will get some pics with it on the carrier shortly, got to meet that 30th August deadline for Nigels book.

thanks kevin.
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1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
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Hi, Interesting pictures from Ford Canada carrier production, confirming the battery box internal was painted with a rubberised black paint. A couple of others featuring instrument panel production and carrier box fabrication.

Many thanks to a carrier enthusiast for passing these on.

Kev.
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1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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Awesome pics Kevin.....where did you find those
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Old 17-07-11, 23:47
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Those pictures were in one of the past OMVA magazines. I think the place making them was a factory in Kitchener, Ontario. I guess a lot of stuff was contracted out to smaller sheet metal stamping places.

Kevin. Just wondering why you think it's rubber paint. I thought maybe it was the standard black primer used on a lot of stuff. Saying this, rubber paint makes sense for something housing batteries
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Old 17-07-11, 23:50
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Hi Rich, They are off this site ;
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/w...y/index-e.html.

Whats great about these particular pics is you see the actual people working on the home front fabricating parts and as most of us know to a very high standard.

check out the picture of George VI in the background in that carrier parts stock room and the old boy knocking out the carrier instrument panels, we can only pay tribute to there memory in keeping history alive in carrier preservation.

kevin.
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Jordan, If you look at the battery box in the store room, the inside is clearly still in this gloss black finish, the guy painting is only painting the inside, also looking at shauns Ronson carrier (picture attached) there are remains of this paint. The rear plate the box attaches to was also painted as the remains can be seen in the picture.

I have used chlorinated rubber paint at work at it look just the same, I am guessing with the use of enclosed battery cells on charge you would not want a spark from the hydrogen gas and to reduce the risk of shorting out the battey you whould benefit from insulating the battery enclosure.

kevin.
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1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
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