Ford front bumper

[BCA]

I was expecting to use an NOS from bumper but discovered that the pre-drilled holes do not match the standard clevis brackets that I am familiar with. The bumper was originally stencilled C111Q-17757 then over-marked C01Q-17757. Photo shows the part numbers, other photo shows hole pattern compared to what to me is a standard Clovis bracket. The Ford 1940-42 Master Parts has detaileded descriptions of the various bumpers but doesn't help me figure why it won't mount on a standard F15A.

[BCA]

This shows the first part number C111Q-17757-A which was over stencilled with a later number C01Q-17757A.

[Grant Bowker]

C11Q -17757A and C111Q-17757 both appear in the parts list for the FGT as "Bar - Front Bumper". Manual FGT-01.

There are 5 bumper bars listed:
C01Q-17757 used to serial number 5579
C01Q-17757A used to motor serial 2G-7046-F, will accommodate GM cable takeoff
C01Q-17757B will accommodate cable takeoff bracket and towing attachment bracket (Ford type since GM isn't mentioned?) When stock deleted, supply C111Q-17757
C111Q-17757 used from serial 5580 will accommodate cable takeoff and towing brackets - also has hooks for scotch hawser hooks. When stock depleted supply C29Q-17757.
C29Q-17757 used from serial 104455

Do the "normal" Ford and Chev tow rings use the same bolt pattern? I know the cable guide with integrated tow ring uses a bolt pattern on the bumper that is only slightly different than the standard Chev pattern as we ran into this on Bob Carriere's bumper. (making the holes slightly oversize will accommodate the difference.) The base casting had a GM style part number cast in but that doesn't mean it wasn't also used on Fords.
Is it possible that you have a FGT bumper bar, set up for the winch cable guide and not for the standard Ford tow ring on the left? Does the right side have hole pattern to fit the standard Ford tow ring?

[BCA]

Hi Grant, I figured you'd have the books handy. I suspect only the latest model bumper (C29Q-17757) had holes for the familiar clevis brackets (they are listed along with this late bumper in the parts books). I now suspect earlier Fords had no clevis brackets; like the early bumper that I have. It is listed for all early models 15, 30, 60 CWT and G.T. The familiar clevis brackets have a hole pattern 3" wide and 1.5" high. These holes are also used with special spacers to mount the spring bumper bar. My 13 Cab Chev has the same 3" x 1.5" hole pattern for the clevis brackets (but clevis's are horizontal instead of vertical on the Ford) which bolt to frame rail brackets.

[BCA]

All is becoming a bit clearer. My NOS bumper is for early Ford that did not have towing clevis's. The later bumpers have holes for the towing clevis's (3" wide by 1.5" high hole pattern, same for both the Ford and Chev). These holes will overlap with some of the extra holes on the my early Ford bumper. As an additional note, while the Ford and Chev clevis brackets have the same bolt pattern, the Ford ones are spaced 22" apart and incorporate the spring bumper bar while the Chev ones are 26-1/2" apart and bolt to brackets on the frame rail. The 2 photos show the difference between the Clovis mounting location on the Ford versus the Chev (both Cab 13)

[BCA]

This shows one of the Chev clevis bracket locations on a Cab 13 truck.

[BCA]

This shows a Ford clevis bracket location on a Cab 13 truck.