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Old 30-03-05, 18:48
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Any idea which unit these Foxes were with ?
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Old 30-03-05, 19:06
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Hi Hanno,

Great pictures, neither I knew about foxes in Holland, you'll always see those humber mk4 on liberation pics etc.

We are busy to recreate a picture like those Hanno, we aren't far from driving to the parades in it's fresh paint!!!

Where will you be with your F15A? Probably Apeldoorn as well?

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Old 30-03-05, 19:52
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Hanno

Any idea which unit these Foxes were with ?
Hi James;

The Hague, 8 May 45 - they are possibly from the 4th Reconnaissance Regiment (4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards), C.A.C. (1st Cdn Inf Div - Recce Regt).

On the 8th, 3rd Canadian Infantry Brigade (R22eR; CYR; WNSR) entered The Hague, along with other elements of the 1st Cdn Inf Div.

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Old 30-03-05, 20:38
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Hi Mark

What a funny coincidence for the 4th, to have lost their Foxes in Italy and then to use them again in Holland almost a year later!
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Old 31-03-05, 21:00
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And another picture. Never knew they were used in Holland. Did you, Dirk?!?


Hanno, I was always hoping to see a picture of a Fox in Holland
during the liberation days, Mei 1945.

Groeten, Dirk
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Old 31-03-05, 23:55
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Great pictures, neither I knew about foxes in Holland, you'll always see those humber mk4 on liberation pics etc.
Dirk, these are the first pictures I have seen of Foxes in Holland. Exiting stuff, isn't it?

Below is a Humber Mk IV, pictured on 8 May in The Hague as well.

http://www.bevrijdingskinderen.nl/be...en_Haag-PV.jpg
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Old 01-04-05, 01:42
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Dirk, these are the first pictures I have seen of Foxes in Holland. Exiting stuff, isn't it?

Below is a Humber Mk IV, pictured on 8 May in The Hague as well.
Hi Hanno;

It belongs to the British 49th Reconnaissance Regiment (49th (West Riding) Infantry Division), which is interesting, because according to their history, they were not in The Hague on 8 May, 45, their Squadrons being elsewhere. I'll dig out their locations for 8 May and post them.

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Old 01-04-05, 15:37
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Below is a Humber Mk IV, pictured on 8 May in The Hague as well.
Follow-up to my earlier post, disposition of 49th Recce Regt squadrons on 8 May 45:

"A" Sqn - Utrecht
"B" Sqn - two Troops Hilversum and two Troops Amsterdam
"C" Sqn - two Troops Baarn and two Troops Amersfoort

Taskings: 7 to 12 May

- 49th (West Riding) Infantry Division - disarming of three German Divisions holding the 'Grebbe Line' - based on Hilversum and Utrecht

- 1st Canadian Infantry Division - disarming the German Coastal Divisions - based on The Hague and Rotterdam

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Old 20-01-07, 20:59
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Bardia again, but she is now wrongly identified!

"Troopers of the 4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards in a Humber IV armoured car, Matrice, Italy, 27 October 1943

Credit: Capt. Alexander M. Stirton / Canada. Dept. of National Defence / Library and Archives Canada / PA-137994"
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Old 26-11-08, 09:04
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More Foxes in Italy? Click on link for larger view.

Allied vehicle moving down street in Naples during the Italian Campaign.
Location: Naples, Italy
Date taken: October 1943

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images...c131f4_landing
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Who owns this? I would really like to contact him.
This GM Fox and in Italy and mine, in Italy they have remained in private collections and other 3 2 at Italian air force military, 1 in a museum, I've had 3, I think the other one is in the Netherlands do not know , I think I'll put on sale soon
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Default Field Security Section

I am a bit late replying but I may have a bit more info to add re the Fox(es) in the Hague in May 1945(The thread images are broken links now but the image numbers may still be searched in that database, and there are a couple other fox photos there!)

One of the images show a pair of motorcycles strapped to the Fox's engine deck. The AOS is visible on one of the bikes as 86 on a dark background.

That would likely associate the bikes (and possibly the Fox...) as belonging to a Field Security Section (Mobile). An Armoured vehicle would not ordinarily be part of their kit but given their Intelligence/Security mop up role it would not necessarily have gone astray... also the previously mentioned 141 report does associate the Fox with future internal security work.

Of course these could still be unmarked recce regiment (Were the PLDG returned from an Infantry Role to their original Recce role after leaving Italy? ) Foxes, one of which is merely carrying some FSS(M) bikes.

I'd post image links but as of tonight the dutch website is down for maintenance.

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Old 01-12-20, 15:43
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Default The Hague, 8 May 1945

Refresh of this thread a couple years later with updated links and often higher quality scans:

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
Here´s another one in NW Europe: The Hague, The Netherlands, 8 May 1945, to be precise.
Source: http://www.gemeentearchief.denhaag.nl/websitehga/
Caption: » Buitenhof met een pantserwagen van de geallieerden; op de achtergrond nr. 42 (B. Dyjer)
Fotonummer: 6.05314
Fotograaf: Schrama, J.M.G., 10212
Datum: ca. 8 mei 1945
1 zwartwitfoto 6 x 9 cm
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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
And another picture. Never knew they were used in Holland. Did you, Dirk?!?
Source: http://www.gemeentearchief.denhaag.nl/websitehga/
Caption: » Intocht van de Canadezen op de Hofweg
Fotonummer: 1.11390
Fotograaf: Wijk, Ed van
Datum: ex. mei 1945
1 zwartwitfoto 15 x 23 cm
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Picture number three!?!
Source: http://www.gemeentearchief.denhaag.nl/websitehga/
Caption: » Canadees voertuig op de Groenmarkt
Fotonummer: 1.10953
Fotograaf: Douwes, H.A.W., 553333
Datum: ex. 8 mei 1945
1 prentbriefkaart 9 x 14 cm
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Old 01-12-20, 16:12
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I am a bit late replying but I may have a bit more info to add re the Fox(es) in the Hague in May 1945(The thread images are broken links now but the image numbers may still be searched in that database, and there are a couple other fox photos there!)

One of the images show a pair of motorcycles strapped to the Fox's engine deck. The AOS is visible on one of the bikes as 86 on a dark background.

That would likely associate the bikes (and possibly the Fox...) as belonging to a Field Security Section (Mobile). An Armoured vehicle would not ordinarily be part of their kit but given their Intelligence/Security mop up role it would not necessarily have gone astray... also the previously mentioned 141 report does associate the Fox with future internal security work.

Of course these could still be unmarked recce regiment (Were the PLDG returned from an Infantry Role to their original Recce role after leaving Italy? ) Foxes, one of which is merely carrying some FSS(M) bikes.

I'd post image links but as of tonight the dutch website is down for maintenance.
Indeed, here is the picture of the Fox with the motorcycle stowed on the rear, plus one more I could find:

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Gegevens: Dagelijkse Groenmarkt; langs de opgestelde binnenlandse strijdkrachten trekt een Canadese gevechtswagen volgeladen met materiaal
Vervaardiger: Douwes, H.A.W.
Identificatienr. 6.24897 and HGA001900791
Datering ex. 8-5-1945

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and: https://haagsgemeentearchief.nl/medi...8-df38267b0e6b

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Gegevens: Canadese gevechtswagen op de Dagelijkse Groenmarkt
Vervaardiger: Douwes, H.A.W.
Identificatienr.: HGA001900797 and 1.10814
Datering: ex. 8-5-1945

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https://haagsgemeentearchief.nl/medi...2-eef9be691423
and: https://haagsgemeentearchief.nl/medi...e-ae3261a849d5
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Old 01-12-20, 17:53
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Default Quiz time!!

Now, the question is: how many different Foxes do you see in the photos taken in The Hague?

Was it a single one, or were there multiples present?
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