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Old 10-09-19, 21:44
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Default Shifter column issues

Harry,

Based on our collective experiences, which includes Rob Love and the RCA Lynx, they seem to suffer from being exposed to the elements over time. Not surprising when you think about it. I was able to source from Mac's Auto Parts both the external cap (Robin's last picture) "Floor Shift Lever Housing Cap 32-32089-1", which works quite well and the internal cap which didn't work well since the top hole was too large to properly secure the spring. Gerry certainly solved that.

Perry,

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Sounds as if you and Gerry used the same approach to solving the problem. I'm looking forward to seeing his solution.

Peter

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Old 10-09-19, 22:06
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Floor Shift Lever Housing Cap 32-32089-1"
I just assumed a part like that would be hard to find, wow thinks. i ordered it already. will look better than my muffler clamp fix.
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Old 11-09-19, 00:55
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I had my shifter pull out on the way to the Abbotsford airshow last month.
My problem was the threads on the cap were so worn out they would just let the big cap pop off at a bad time. no fix for the thread so i cut it with a hack saw and used a muffler clamp to hold it tight so it doesn't pop off. I like the idea of a thicker pin so that goes on the todo list and does anybody know a source or application for the big thread on cover?
Harry, I think you will find that the cover is just an ordinary Ford gearbox tower cover. Any Ford gearbox top will fit, so have a look at those gearboxes out the back for a good one. Cheers Rick.
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Old 11-09-19, 01:26
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I like the idea of a thicker pin so that goes on the todo list and does anybody know a source or application for the big thread on cover?
A lot of the shifter parts for the Borg Warner T98/T18 can be used on the WW2 Ford 4 Speeds.

The T98 and T18 boxes do not utilise the reverse lockout lever, but the available new shifter levers can be modified to fit this, or you can run without it.

https://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/...t18-t19-parts/
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Old 13-09-19, 03:08
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Peter, I have been away from the forum for a while and was also unable to make it to Aquino this year. Congratulations on getting plates on it at last, what a great milestone. The action shot you shared from Aquino is brilliant!
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Old 14-09-19, 03:33
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Guys,

I'm starting to learn the finer details of the English term "fettling". I took the Lynx out for a spin before heading off to the Gatineau Air Show, when I found out that I could no longer engage fourth gear. After several attempts and severe grinding I trundled home in third.

I then attempted to adjust the clutch linkage with no success, I then talked over the problem with Robin Craig, who was able to persuade Gerry Foster to travel from Gananoque to try and resolve the issue.

In short order Gerry was able to determine that the issue was not with the clutch, but the shifter linkage, and zeroed in on the base of the shifter column which was corroded and sloppy. Partially rebuilt by myself.

The shifter column is now out and off for a proper rebuild.

Don't know where I would be without friends and MLU.

Peter

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It was a pleasure to journey up and work on such a neat piece of history with yourself and Robin. It brings me great joy to be able to "repair" something these days. We live in such a throw away generation and as an automotive mechanic, things just are not made to be fixed anymore! To be able to re-machine parts in a mill that were once made by skilled craftsman completely by hand, designed on paper with a pencil.....this really is the reason I get involved in these type of projects! And for owners like Peter, who have a passion for their vehicles and a desire the return them to the way they were in service. Many days are spent diagnosing modern electronics and engineering/design flaws today, we as an industry have lost our way IMO. Simplicity, functionality and serviceability from this era of the Lynx and other MV's. 40 years from now, no one will be repairing the shifter in a Honda accord or Kia SUV......
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Old 15-09-19, 04:46
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Guys,

Gerry and Robin showed up on Thursday with a well rebuilt shifter tower which was installed in short order. However Gerry was disturbed by some of the sounds originating from the clutch. After removing the battery pack and access plate we were able to expose the top of the clutch assembly. This revealed a grease line to the release bearing that had come adrift and disintegrated along with the remnants of the release bearing hub (retainer). It appears that this was incorrectly assembled by someone who shall remain nameless (myself).
Bottom line is that the engine now has to be pulled, which entails a fair bit of work just to expose the engine.
This project was to keep me busy in my retirement and is doing so, still enjoying every moment.
I am now looking for a replacement "Hub-clutch release bearing", O9B 7561, which appears to used in other applications as well as in the Lynx. Should anyone know where I can source one, please let me know.

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Old 15-09-19, 08:20
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I am now looking for a replacement "Hub-clutch release bearing", O9B 7561, which appears to used in other applications as well as in the Lynx. Should anyone know where I can source one, please let me know.

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Old 15-09-19, 14:20
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I would expect a Ford part number to be 09B 7561 rather than O9B 7561 (number zero rather than letter "Oh"). A crude Google on that produces results for both a bearing and a hub for the bearing. The hub appears discontinued at Macs but available at Dennis Carpenter... The bearing appears available at several sources.

Sorry, I forgot to include the link to the Google I did. Interesting to see that doing the search now brings up this discussion as a result... https://www.google.com/search?source...=1568593924523

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Old 15-09-19, 18:10
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It was a pleasure to journey up and work on such a neat piece of history with yourself and Robin. It brings me great joy to be able to "repair" something these days. We live in such a throw away generation and as an automotive mechanic, things just are not made to be fixed anymore! To be able to re-machine parts in a mill that were once made by skilled craftsman completely by hand, designed on paper with a pencil.....this really is the reason I get involved in these type of projects! And for owners like Peter, who have a passion for their vehicles and a desire the return them to the way they were in service. Many days are spent diagnosing modern electronics and engineering/design flaws today, we as an industry have lost our way IMO. Simplicity, functionality and serviceability from this era of the Lynx and other MV's. 40 years from now, no one will be repairing the shifter in a Honda accord or Kia SUV......
Two things. 1. WELCOME to MLU and 2. awesome first post. You are old school and appreciate vehicles from a time long past which in this day and age speaks volumes. Again, welcome aboard.
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Old 15-09-19, 21:31
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Bottom line is that the engine now has to be pulled, which entails a fair bit of work just to expose the engine.
Peter, If it makes you feel any better, I just dropped the 300 pound nose armour off the Fox (after removing 31 1/2" round head slot screws and a few dozen smaller nuts and bolts) to access the clutch master cylinder that needs periodic servicing. I feel your pain!!

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Old 16-09-19, 01:11
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Bruce,

was today your birthday? I know it was Peter's birthday, Happy Birthday.
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Old 17-09-19, 02:42
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Peter. If in fact it was or is your B'day....Happy Birthday. All the best!
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Old 17-09-19, 09:12
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The bearing carrier is probably the same as most of the Fords of that era.
In saying that there are bearings that are greasable and those that are sealed for life. They match up to the appropriate bearing carrier. Yours requires the greasable bearing and the bearing carrier that takes the grease hose.
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Old 18-09-19, 00:59
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The bearing carrier is probably the same as most of the Fords of that era.
The bearing carrier that Mac's and Dennis Carpenter list is 48-7561, which was the standard carrier used in most cars and trucks and does not have the threaded boss to accept the grease lube line featured on the 09B carrier (as pictured in the Lynx parts diagram). This grease line (from a grease cup mounted on the exterior of the bellhousing) doesn't lubricate the clutch release bearing itself, it lubricates the carrier itself sliding on the gearbox bearing retainer.

Mac's and Carpenter's item is also a new repro, while Hagen's part is NOS Ford.
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Old 18-09-19, 03:39
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Guys,

Takes a bit of work on a Lynx to access the clutch assembly. I fortunately cleaned off a few shelves to store the parts, just didn't expect to fill them all. Armour bits took up the floor space. Now to wait for parts and expertise.

Tony,

Thanks for the heads up about Hagen's.


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Old 18-09-19, 03:50
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Peter, think of it this way...it keeps you young.

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Takes a bit of work on a Lynx to access the clutch assembly. I fortunately cleaned off a few shelves to store the parts, just didn't expect to fill them all. Armour bits took up the floor space. Now to wait for parts and expertise.

Tony,

Thanks for the heads up about Hagen's.


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