Loyd carrier progress

ajmac · #1 28-06-10, 12:41

Well, I've done the deal and those two Loyd Carrier chassis with engine, gearbox, axles, floor pan and bits of bogies are coming to England

I am collecting them in the middle of next month so I need to get to grips with the weights involved.

I presumed at 1.5 tonnes per chassis assembly:
Loyd Chassis
All Axles
Some bogies
Floor Plate
Engine
Gearbox

However the guy who I've brought them from said he reckons 3.5 tonnes for the lot with the one side worth of good track thrown in.

I've got to decide if I can take a 3.5 tonne (3 tonnes max payload) trailer with the Discovery or if I will need to rent a 7.5 tonne truck. The final option would be get a haulage company to pick them up.... but that could get very expensive, very quickly, at least it's a back stop.

RichardT10829 · #2 28-06-10, 13:43

how is the vendor moving them ? container ? the shipping firm wont let anything onboard that is not lashed down to a base plinth so you need to check how its coming over buddy, also make sure you get a written manifest of what is included in the sale for which you can check off your lists when it comes home. also a written bill of sale with price etc for when it comes to registering it / them.

If i was you i would get your garage / workshop stripped out now, get the floor painted up and your toolage organised, and perhaps a pair of strong stands to put the chassis bed on so you can work at waist height...

welcome to the carrier family matey its a terminal disease ! (at least i know of a lloyd over here in the future should anyone wish to swap a universal hehehehe)

cheers

Richie

ajmac · #3 28-06-10, 15:43

We are going to fetch them ourselves, at least that is the plan at the moment, had the seller email over the bill sale this morning, so it is all in black and white and on my desk as I write.

I plan to build one Carrier and everything I get fabricated I'll have two sets done. That way there will be a kit of remanufactured parts to go with the second chassis weather I decide to build the second or pass it on as a project. At the end of the day....why would I want two! You never know there may not be enough left once the second vehicle has been christmas treed to held the first.

Rich... you will get a big thanks once they arrive on site in the UK, you can have first go in it once it's complete. You may have a few grey hairs by then though!

RichardT10829 · #4 28-06-10, 15:55

no probs i know of some excelent condition UC tracks (full sets) for sale was going to get them myself but iam skint with engine rebuilds and bearings etc..... let me know if you are interested and i will put you on to the guy.

Richie

Hanno Spoelstra · #5 12-07-10, 18:43

Here´s some inspration in case you want to reconstruct them into something "a little different"

ajmac · #6 13-07-10, 16:50

Nice as it looks, I think I'll stick with a TPC and a TT, I've my fingers crossed that as a TPC without additional armour I will be able to tow it on a 3.5 tonne trailer

I'll just have to wait until the end of the project and pop her on a weight bridge.

ajmac · #7 03-03-11, 11:54

I haven't posted much concerning the Loyd restoration on MLU, so I though I would just do a short update as to where I am.

The two wrecks arrived on site in July 2010, one has slowly been stripped with all parts being recorded and examined to see if they will be usable in the future. One range target vehicle sat upright for many years and the other was upturned, thus together I am managing to restore one Loyd from both. The Loyd you see upside down and cut in half was recovered from the range with a 90 degree bend in the centre, thus it had to be cut to transport it. Luckly this vehicle sat upright and its cross tubes and bogie parts are in reasonable condition, with it's interior rotted to nothing. The second vehicle (which is the basis for the restoration) sat upside down and it's interior parts were in very good condition, but the running gear had been shot to pieces.

As of March 2011 the Loyd has been stripped of all parts except the rear axle which is proving very stuborn! All the steering leavers and small brackets have been acid cleaned and painted, a replacement drivers floor and front lower hull plate have been fabricated, a 24 stud USA manufactured Flathead has been sourced along with a wartime gearbox which is being re-assembled at the moment.

Some new exhaust stub pipes have been cast and I should have the full set back from the machine shop in 10 days or so. Yesterday I was given a couple of free road wheels by a local farmer but I am still looking out for the following:

Bogies with springs and shafts (complete if possible)
Road Wheels (UC, not Windsor)
Track return rollers
Tracks (UC, not Windsor)
Rear towing spring and hook
Fuel tank change valve
Brake drums
Brake back plates
And almost anything Loyd related!

Paul V is giving me great assistance with the rebuild and as luck would have it there is a complete original Loyd TPC just 20 miles away in a private collection for measurements etc...

As far as I know this is the only Loyd project in the UK at the moment (eddy8men is parts collecting for a future project), but I'd love to hear from anyone in the UK who has a Loyd or is in the process of restoring one.

No2 Mk2 TT - 1944

Front Axle Removed

Diff removed, date 1943

Family helps out!

Drivers controls / hull support bracket

Drivers floor

Drivers floor removed - everything unbolted with ease!

Original Flathead V8 - Not in the best of health.

Original Gearbox (now scrapped) showing US origins.

front_lower_hull by ajmacv8, on Flickr
More images on flicker

ajmac · #8 03-03-11, 11:55

More photos...

Wartime Fordson 7V chassis on route to the workshop.

Flathead V8 (wartime water pumps to be fitted)

Half a Loyd

Inside the rear of the drivers floor, note steering levers.

Cleaned and primed for storage.

A bit of Olive Drab.

Exhaust stub pipes with new one yet to be machined.

New Drivers floor steering cable covers.

New Drivers Floor plate

New Front lower hull plate.

Ryan · #9 04-03-11, 02:26

Great work Alastair, watching this thread with joy. What a project. Good to see the family on board too. Best of luck.
ryan

paul visser · #10 06-03-11, 16:58

Look's good Alastair,

keep up the good job, i know how it feels.
you almost catch up on me

paul visser · #11 20-03-11, 21:20

good job Alastair, i got started once, and you will get to my point as well. Just keep up the good work and dont rush, You can drive mine at Beltring.