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Old 08-06-17, 16:16
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Found and saved a Carrier wreck that has all the front armour goodies left that Iīm missing on my drivable Carrier. What can you tell me of this wreck? MK2? T-number? More?
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Old 08-06-17, 16:22
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Some more pictures
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Old 08-06-17, 16:25
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Amazing find! Looks like the only needed the drive train components and some flat steel plate, then buried the rest to get rid of it?

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Old 08-06-17, 16:45
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According to my Chilwell list, it's a No1 Mk II, built by Sentinel on contract M.1532 which covered 619 carriers T.252505 - T.253123.
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Old 08-06-17, 16:53
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Tankbarrell, what year are we talking about? Sentinal, built in Australia??
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Old 08-06-17, 16:54
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Nice find, is the radio battery box for sale ?.

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Old 08-06-17, 16:56
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Kevin, it might be if it was not mounted as standard on my runner.
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Old 08-06-17, 17:52
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Tankbarrell, what year are we talking about? Sentinal, built in Australia??
/Erik
I don't have a year for the contract, is the date stamped into the top armour at the front?

I assume it's Sentinel Waggon Works Ltd. at Shrewsbury in the UK.
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Old 08-06-17, 20:54
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British built carriers don't have the armour stamped in the same way as Canadian ones. If there's no ID plate still on the hull then all you have to go by is the T number. In reality, as Adrian has said, that's pretty much all the info you'll need/find. The contract card may tell you more but probably not.

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Old 08-06-17, 20:58
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Eric, its a Sentinel Wagon (UK) built MkII, 3 inch Mortar carrier, according to Nigel Watsons book.

Adrian, The British carriers weren't stamped in the front armour. The info was only on the gun metal plate riveted to the drivers front guard. The Canadians helped to preserve the info with theirs, by stamping into the armour (after the first 1000 or so)

This will be a late war carrier. It is similar to Petrs carrier, although his is not a Mortar.
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Old 08-06-17, 23:08
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Thanks for clarifying Ben and Lynn, I've only ever had a T-16 and a Windsor and they both had it.
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Old 09-06-17, 00:25
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At Corowa this year we had a Sentinel 3" Mortar Carrier there, going by the census number it is an earlier one. I also know of another Sentinel 3" Mortar Carrier in NSW, yet to be restored.

Here is a photo of Wayne's Carrier at Corowa.

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I guess most of us have seen this. The AWM films are easy to download and save for later . I convert them to whatever format is required

https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C189886?search
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Old 09-06-17, 07:29
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Great find Erik, some very nice details there!
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Old 09-06-17, 08:56
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Eric, can you do a closer photo of the bracket at the front of the control rod cover please? I can't work out what i'm looking at.
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Old 09-06-17, 09:19
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Many thanks to you all, what a great source of knowledge!
What is the most significant differences between a normal Carrier and a Mortar Carrier?
Lynn Eades, Donīt really understand what "control rod cover" is. Please post a Picture where you have marked out what you want me to take better Pictures of. Pictures have to wait at least a week, the carrier is very far from where I live. There are a couple of extras added on the carrier when it was used in the forrest.
I found a Picture of the carrier on a Facebook group last year and managed to get in contact with the photographer. From there I found the location and later the landowner who nearly did not know about it. Iīll try to use as many parts as possible on my drivable Carrier.
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Old 09-06-17, 12:52
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Eric, where the driver sits, on his left side is a tin cover that runs between the two seats. This cover has some kind of fitting at the front. There should be a gear lever just there as well.
Carriers were kitted out to suit many different roles. The Mortar carrier had a clear flat deck at the rear on which was carried the 3" Mortar. There was no battery box in the middle, over the deck. The POL box which was usually fitted to the battery box was fitted at the left hand side on a mortar carrier.
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Old 09-06-17, 13:05
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After 40 years in the woods... Is this what you are looking for? Hard to see if itīs an original fitting or aftermarket.
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Old 09-06-17, 22:31
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Thankyou Eric. I still don't know what that bracket is.
I see the gear change now.
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Old 10-06-17, 23:54
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I'll take a better picture in a couple of Days.
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Old 11-06-17, 10:20
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Great find Erik.

Some grafts and a bit of elbow grease should see a nice carrier hull out of that lot !

Top tip, don't dispose or sell anything from it until you are 100% sure it isn't needed

It's the carrier restorers mantra to do follow this rule.

Likewise if you need anything, just shout up.
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Old 25-06-17, 11:09
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Found the ID tag under the dirt There was at least 20cm of soil in the drivers compartment, did a quick digging and found a little hatch, original?
Erik
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Old 25-06-17, 13:57
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Good luck and say your thanks to the landowner. If he is open to the offer, a standard item of currency in Canada for helping a stranger is a bottle of reasonably good whiskey or for lesser assistance, a case of 24 beers.
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Found the ID tag under the dirt There was at least 20cm of soil in the drivers compartment, did a quick digging and found a little hatch, original?
Erik
The hatch cover is off a Studebaker Weasel. It is the Detonator cover. A nice piece of jewellery for a weasel owner. There are a number of weasel owners over your way that would be happy to own it.
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Old 26-06-17, 13:34
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maple_leaf_eh, the landowner was happy to get rid of it. He could not understand why I was interested in it

ozm29c, great! Talked to a friend who has a collection of Studebaker Weasels so I will give it to him.

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