Flame Throwers, Fuel Tank. WASP?

[Brock J]

I was wondering if anyone can help me figure out what exactly I have here. Bear with me , I am trying to attach some pics. I believe the fuel tank is UC WASP, but I don't know which model. I am not sure if there were many WASP variants. The flame guns are both different variations, but I think both belong to carriers. I have seen a flame unit similar to these ones in Ottawa, but even the one in the museum wasn't identical to either of these. Are there any WASP rig restorations or TM's available that would help me identify the various pieces that I have? If anyone has any info, I would appreciate it. Thanks


Thanks -- You will find pictures below

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[cliff]

Here is a picture of a flame thower carrier from the Polish Institute & Sikorsky Museum of London.

Cheers
Cliff

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by B Jolliffe
I was wondering if anyone can help me figure out what exactly I have here. Bear with me , I am trying to attach some pics. I believe the fuel tank is UC WASP, but I don't know which model. I am not sure if there were many WASP variants. The flame guns are both different variations, but I think both belong to carriers. I have seen a flame unit similar to these ones in Ottawa, but even the one in the museum wasn't identical to either of these. Are there any WASP rig restorations or TM's available that would help me identify the various pieces that I have? If anyone has any info, I would appreciate it. Thanks

See anything you like here??
If so contact me off line..


#61: 423 pages FUC-03 FORD MOTOR COMPANY OF CANADA, CARRIER, UNIVERSAL Mk. I and Mk. II. Illustrated Parts Catalogue 1941-44. Reissued May '44.
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#62: 200 pages UC Universal Carrier Mk. I, Operators Maintenance Handbook, July '43, Canadian.
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#63: 290 pages UC-F1 Universal Carrier, Mk. I, Workshop Manual, Nov. '42, Canadian.
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#64: 96 pages UC-OM1 Carrier, Universal No. 2, Mk.2, Operator's Manual, September '44.
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#64A: 66Pages CAMT 7-32, Universal Carrier, Flamethrower, transportable. (IROQUOIS) Mounted in Universal Carrier. 1956 (Illustrated)

[Mark W. Tonner]

Maybe this will help, it is a thread on the WASP located elsewhere on this forum, go here

Cheers

[Brock J]

Here is a pic of the units I have. ... Hope this works. ... Ahhh a picture. Thanks for your help Geoff. Thanks guys, for your rapid responses already. These units do not look like anything I can find in the posts so far. Thanks Cliff, the fuel tank is very similar to the single one in the pic you posted. So does this make the fuel tank off a MKIIC ? ....Brock

[Brock J]

Here is a photo of the fuel tank I have. I believe it belongs to a MK II C. Any further info would be appreciated. Thanks .....Brock

[Brock J]

I am still looking for any info on these flame thrower units. I Think these flame guns are post war variations, but I'm not sure. Has anyone ever put together a WASP unit? Any documentation on flame gun variants? Is there any interest in these items? I have a few other pieces that belong to them; a couple of hoses and igniter coils. I was hoping to find out more details on this kit. Any thoughts on the value of these pieces? I would like to know more history on these uncommon tactical pieces. Thanks for any info or guidance you can provide.

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Brock J
Here is a pic of the units I have. ... Hope this works. ... Ahhh a picture. Thanks for your help Geoff. Thanks guys, for your rapid responses already. These units do not look like anything I can find in the posts so far. Thanks Cliff, the fuel tank is very similar to the single one in the pic you posted. So does this make the fuel tank off a MKIIC ? ....Brock

Brock..The projectors shown are out of the Iroquois flame thrower..
These projectors mounted in the Mark l* and the Mark ll are known as the Iroquois....
These were post WWll ,and in use in the '50's with the Canadian army..A close support infantry weapon,good for 10-15 shots at max 200 Yards range...

I indicated the manuals on a previous posting.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Brock J
Here is a photo of the fuel tank I have. I believe it belongs to a MK II C.
wasp fuel tank.jpg

Comparing it with the one pictured below, I think you are right.
http://dana-nield.com/vimy/images/UN...p/UNIVER22.JPG
Source: http://dana-nield.com/vimy

But as far as I can see the flame guns are different than the ones used on the Ronson or Wasp.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Brock..The projectors shown are out of the Iroquois flame thrower..
These projectors mounted in the Mark l* and the Mark ll are known as the Iroquois....
These were post WWll ,and in use in the '50's with the Canadian army..A close support infantry weapon,good for 10-15 shots at max 200 Yards range...

I indicated the manuals on a previous posting.

Flame gun..Iroquois....

[Alex Blair (RIP)]

Originally posted by Alex Blair
Flame gun..Iroquois....

Flame gun ..Iroquois...style 2...
The tanks are the same as the WASP....

[Hanno Spoelstra]

https://bid.switzersauction.com/EXTR...OWER_i43174304

Someone commented: “Not a Wasp. That's an Iroquois, post WW2.”

[Hanno Spoelstra]

It is dated 1953

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[rob love]

Turnbull elevator also made the Cdn 60mm mortar in the late 50s.

One thing with Switzers Auctions lately: prices have gone up astronomically over the covid period. On top of the winning bid, you also pay a 15% premium and possibly another 15% HST, or 5% GST, depending on where you live. I suspect this one could get very high. A simple no1mk3 grenade cup recently sold for close to $2,000 on that site.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Hanno and Rob

I have sold many tens of thousands of dollars through their shop in the past 5-7 years. I have found that the staff rely on consignees for information on unusual pieces. This is likely the case. When I see spelling mistakes or gross errors, I send them a polite correction note, and things usually get fixed. The best contact is Paul Switzer himself.

TW

[Hanno Spoelstra]

It is up to the seller and the auction house to provide accurate descriptions. And a prospective buyer should do his due diligence.

I think this is the same flame thrower as advertised above: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=5419

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Found this picture of the cover of the Iroquois training manual:

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[edstorey]

Besides the 1954 CAMT 7-32 there was also the 1956 Canadian Ordnance Catalogue - Section 1M - Miscellaneous Weapons - Bomb-Throwers, Flame Throwers, Mortars, Projectors and the 1954 CW-3 Canadian Ordnance Catalogue - Parts Identification List - Flamethrower, Transportable, CDN No. 1, Mk 1.

CAMT 7-32 Infantry Heavy Weapons - Flamethrower, Transportable Cdn No1 Mk 1 - Iroquois - 1954 2-.jpg CW-3 Canadian Ordnance Catalogue - Parts Identification List - Flamethrower, Transportable, CDN .jpg Canadian Ordnance Catalogue - Section 1M - Miscellaneous Weapons - Bomb-Throwers, Flame Throwers.jpg

[Harry Moon]

I tried my best financially but didn't get it. I hope it ends up on here somewhere.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Harry Moon

I tried my best financially but didn't get it. I hope it ends up on here somewhere.

Where did it go? You'll have to try to find out who goes under the name "qwert1985"

[Michael R.]

Ronson, Rattlesnake & Barracuda.