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Old 20-02-08, 17:48
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I was up in the Ramu Valley with my father in early December 2005. He was 7th division 2nd/25th infantry battalion and had fought up in the Markim and Ramu valleys. He showed mum and myself where he had fought – main battle/skirmish being at the site of Kesawai village. We also went to Kiapit and a distant look at Shaggy Ridge.
While up in that area we stayed at the Ramu Sugar complex. We got talking to the local expatts, which wasn’t hard as they were impressed that someone of Dad’s age(82) had come to visit and pay his respects.
Anyhow it was mentioned that they had in the process of developing a new cane field came across a couple of buried little dozers that where used to develop the military airfields in WW2. Apparently a lot of equipment was buried after the Japs where driven out of Papua New Guinea. The theory being that while the war was going the allies way, they may have ended up back in PNG still having to fight. So if that was the case they would need some gear, so they buried catches of equipment just in case. That is what I was told by the expatts anyway! I don’t know as to the condition of these dozers or what happened to them. I assume that it is true due to the amount of ex-military equipment being dug up or that was left lying around and can still be seen today.
Apparently they have a hell of a time digging up Marsden matting when they develop new cane/oil palm fields. Here’s a link for those interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marston_Matting
Just to the North West of this town is the Ramu Sugar township / complex for those who are interested.
"Kaigulan" lat=-5.979949, lon=145.905197 Copy and Paste into Google earth.
I thought this might be of interest to the discussuion.

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Matting is always of interest to any discussion, well, if you're an Engineer anyway! I'll be posting a story soon of Canada's role in developing expedient runway coverings.

Interesting story you have told of buried equipment in PNG and one that is so oft repeated around the world that there must be much truth to it. In British Columbia stories abound of equipment found along the Alaska Highway and in the Chilcotin training area. When you consider how remote much of Papua New Guinea is, and how quickly the jungle retakes cleared land, I imagine there is much to be found yet. No surprise that they're spending a lot of time digging up Marsden matting (PSP) as there was 2,000,000 tons of the stuff made during WW II. Derek.
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Always interested in Clarkairs. I have only ever seen one in Australia - well restored - at a tractor show a few years back. I have always wanted to own one. Just drove across USA and saw two in the mid-west on poles advertising earth moving companies.

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Lang, by any chance do you remember which cities those ClarkAirs were in? Even better, any chance of remembering the names of the businesses? Thanks, Derek.
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In British Columbia stories abound of equipment found along the Alaska Highway and in the Chilcotin training area.
I admit I didn't do anything close to a full survey of the Chilcotin area, but I didn't find a single object of interest when I was there 1991 (except dinner and my tent/sleeping bag). GB
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I admit I didn't do anything close to a full survey of the Chilcotin area, but I didn't find a single object of interest when I was there 1991 (except dinner and my tent/sleeping bag). GB
Which doesn't surprise me Grant as personally, I think most of the stories start with a small grain of truth and then are grossly exaggerated. Case-in-point: There was a news report decades ago that members of a Chilcotin Indian Band found live, small arms ammunition laying about in the area. This report was true and verified by reporters from the Vancouver Sun. The C.F. went in and investigated and apparently didn't find much...spent cases, a few live rounds...not much else. Now I've hunted throughout B.C. and spent a lot of time around and in the Chilcotin. It wasn't long before I was hearing stories in logging camps, hunting camps, and truck stops of tanks, trucks, and bulldozers buried there. Anybody who has served with the C.F. knows how anal they are, not just about live ammo, but spent cases, stripper clips, and ammo boxes. We've all had to stand at attention and declare, "I have no ammo, spent cases, or any other ordnance in my possession SIR!" before leaving the range, so the idea of the C.F. leaving stuff laying about is unlikely. Derek.
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I know its not really a CMP question but you blokes seem pretty knowledgable about these things.
In have been reading accounts of the British using D4 and D7 Bulldozers. What do these designations actually mean? I presume it is weight or something. Picture comparisons or dimensions would be useful.
The reason I ask is I read an account of the British parachuting D4s into the Borneo Jungle and as a model maker thought it might make an interesting diorama. However in 1/35 scale I can only find the resicst D7. Would it be feasable to parachute a D7 or are they way too big?
I also found a Clarke Airborne Bulldozer, how does this relate in terms of D rating?
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Paul, as this thread is about bulldozers, perhaps we should move this thread over to the Engineer Forum? Derek.
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Derek,

I will ask Bev about them as she keeps a daily diary of our travels but the chance of getting "Sighted Clarkair bulldozer" in her usual couple of paragraphs over "Sighted two squirrels and beautiful wildflowers" does not make me wildly optimistic about a result.

One, I am pretty sure was on I-90 going west from Minneapolis about mid-morning - it was actually sitting in a little landscaped garden at the entrance to the company yard.

The second one was in the Black Hills area of South Dakota on a pole in a small town, but which one???

Sorry to be so little help but I have to curb my hunting instincts when overseas.

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I will ask Bev about them as she keeps a daily diary of our travels but the chance of getting "Sighted Clarkair bulldozer" in her usual couple of paragraphs over "Sighted two squirrels and beautiful wildflowers" does not make me wildly optimistic about a result.

One, I am pretty sure was on I-90 going west from Minneapolis about mid-morning - it was actually sitting in a little landscaped garden at the entrance to the company yard.

The second one was in the Black Hills area of South Dakota on a pole in a small town, but which one???

Sorry to be so little help but I have to curb my hunting instincts when overseas.

Lang
Thanks Lang, I've been mulling over purchasing a CA-1 since I started doing an airborne impression. Along with my R.C.E. impression, an air-transportable dozer kinda fits. Although probably not historically correct, it would look good towed behind my CMP. Derek.
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I know which were the main types of dozer/tractor used by the British forces in NW Europe - How would I identify the type from a picture? - that is how would I distinguish a Cat D4 from a Cat D7 from an International ?
And what other types were used by other Nations?
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I believe the first is a Cat with the british hydraulic set up but which size? the second has a different method of raising the blade - what is it?
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I know which were the main types of dozer/tractor used by the British forces in NW Europe - How would I identify the type from a picture? - that is how would I distinguish a Cat D4 from a Cat D7 from an International ?
And what other types were used by other Nations?

Noel, I've been waiting in the wings hoping someone would answer your questions so I wouldn't have to expose my utter lack of knowledge on the subject. I'll present what little I know about bulldozers in the hope someone will exclaim, "What's that berk goin' on about now!" and set us both right.
I know of three main manufacturers of large bulldozers for the Allies, Caterpillar, International Harvester, and Allis Chalmers. There were other manufacturers of heavy equipment and tractors such as Case, Clark, Barber Ellis, Le Tourneau, and I think JCB to mention a few but as far as I know they didn't make bulldozers other than the dimunitive CA-1. (Jump in anytime guys.) Each type had what a Detroit auto manufacturer would call "design elements", i.e. the Cat D4 and D7 had a flat radiator grill perforated with round holes while the Allis Chalmers had a curved grill with horizontal slats. One should take the time to peruse various pictures of the different bulldozers and you'll start to see some subtle and not so subtle differences. As for raising the blade, I've seen two methods; hydraulic and winch but I couldn't tell you with any definitiveness which manufacturer used what. This is barely a primer on the subject and as I said, hopefully someone else will post further info.

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Here are a couple of pictures of unidentified bulldozers that I believe are foreign manufacture. The first picture was taken in Poland by a German soldier and the second is of an artillery tractor used by a German GebirgsJagers. I haven't been able to ID them yet, any ideas guys?
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Derek,

The front radiator cover design is a good ID for different makes.

Most WW2 smaller crawlers had hydraulic blades. Most of the Inters had that nicely curving lifting arm while Allis and Cat went for simpler blade arms. The manufacturers relied on proprietry blade/lifting designs so you will find many different blade systems on the same dozer.

Most of the big dozers had cable lift blades with either an overhead frame to carry the cable from the rear winch or a "block and tackle" hanging from the front of the tractor with the cable routed through pulleys along the side to the rear winch..

Of course many crawlers were not fitted with blades.

The easiest way to tell what you are looking at from photos is: D-4 size engine cover is just below shoulder height for an average man while the D-7 size is well above his head. The little D-2 is about nipple height and the baby Clarkair is waist height.
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According to TM 9-2800 (1 September 1943) War Department tractor / bulldozers were standardized under three general nomenclature groupings, with several commercially available models in each group, as follows:


Tractor, Light
Caterpillar Tractor Co. Model D4 (G-151)
International Harvester Model TD9 (G-99)

Tractor, Medium, M1
Allis-Chalmers Co. Model HD7W (G-125)
Caterpillar Tractor Co. Model D6 (G-69)
Cleveland Tractor Co.
International Harvester Co. Model TD14 (G-132)

Tractor, Heavy, M1
Allis-Chalmers Co. Model HD10W (G-98)
Caterpillar Tractor Co. Model D7 (G-126)
International Harvester Co. Model TD18 (G-101)

While other tractors were procured during WW II, those listed were the most common.


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Tractor, Heavy, M1
Allis-Chalmers Co. Model HD10W (G-98)
Caterpillar Tractor Co. Model D7 (G-126)
International Harvester Co. Model TD18 (G-101)

Derek,

The Caterpillar in the Heavy M1 class...........should'nt that ought to be a D8 ?
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The Caterpillar in the Heavy M1 class...........should'nt that ought to be a D8 ?
Not according to the Directory of US ARMY "G" Numbers which I've copied here:

G57 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G58 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G59 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G67 White M3A1 Scout Car
G69 Caterpillar D6 6 ton M1 Tractor, crawler
G72 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G74 Saginaw 2 ton M1, M2, M5 Trailer, 3 wheel, chemical or bomb
G82 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G83 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G84 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G85 Chevrolet NQ 1 ton M6 Truck, 1 ton, bomb service
G91 GMC 3 ton M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G92 GMC M1, M2 Truck, ordnance, maintenance
G96 Cletrac MG 7 ton M2 Tractor, high speed, aircraft
G98 Allis-Chalmers HD10W M1 Tractor, crawler, heavy, 155mm gun
G99 IHC TD9 M5 Tractor, crawler, heavy, 155mm gun
G101 IHC TD18 M1 Tractor, crawler
G102 Autocar, White, M2,-A1,M3,-A1 Car, halftrack
Diamond T M4,M13, Car, Half track
(not International) M15,-A1 Carriage motor, comb gun
M16, M16A1 Carriage motor, multiple gun
M3, M3A1 Carrier, personnel, 1/2 track
M4,M4A1,M21 Carrier, 81mm Mortar, 1/2 track
G103 American Car & Foundry M3,-A1,-A3 Tank,Light,Stuart, 7cyl radial
Cadillac M5, -A1 Tank,light,Stuart, twin V-8
G104 Baldwin Locomotive M3,-A1,-A2 Tank, medium, Lee, 75mm
-A3,-A4,-A5
Chrysler, et al M4,-A1,A2,A4,A6 Tank, medium, Sherman, 75mm
Pullman Standard Car M4E6 Tank, medium, Sherman, 76mm
Chrysler, et al M4A3 Tank, medium, Sherman, 105mm
G116 Ward LaFrance et al 10 ton M1 Truck, 6x6, heavy wrecker
G118 Baldwin Locomotive M6,-A1,T1E1 Tank, heavy, 3"
G121 Dodge 3/4 ton M6 Carriage, Motor 37mm gun
G122 Chevrolet T17,-E1,-E2,M6 A/carcar, 4x4, medium, Staghound
G123 Athey BT898-1,-4 6 ton Trailer, track laying
ET1076-1 10 ton Trailer, track laying
G125 Allis-Chalmers, HD7W M1 Tractor, crawler, medium
Caterpillar, D6 M1 Tractor, crawler, medium
G126 Caterpillar, D7 M3 Tractor, crawler, heavy
G127 Cadillac M8 Carriage, motor, 75mm howitzer
G128 American Locomotive M7 Carriage, motor, 105mm, Priest
G130 Fisher Tank (GMC) M10 Carriage, motor, 3" gun
G132 IHC TD14 2 ton M1 Tractor, crawler, medium
G136 Ford M8 Car, armoured, 6x6, 37mm
G138 GMC 2 ton M7, -A1, -A2 Truck, 6x6, small arms repair
G139 GMC 2 ton M8, -A1 Truck, 6x6, automotive repair
G140 GMC 2 ton M9, -A1 Truck, 6x6, artillery repair
G141 GMC 2 ton M10, -A1 Truck, 6x6, instrument repair
G142 GMC 2 ton M12, -A1, Truck, 6x6, welding
G144 GMC 2 ton M14, Truck, 6x6, spare parts
G146 GMC 2 ton M16, -A1 Truck, 6x6, small arms repair
G147 IHC M5,-A1,M9A1,M14,M
Car, Halftrack
G148 Marmon-Herrington T9E1, M22 Tank, light, Locust
G149 GMC 2 ton M18,-A1,-A2 Truck, elctrical repair
G150 Allis-Chalmers 18 ton M4, -A1 Tractor, high speed
G151 Caterpillar D4,3645DBHP Tractor, crawler, light
G154 Studebaker M28, T15 Carrier, cargo, Weasel, (front engine)
G156 FMC, et al LVT Mk1 Landing Vehicle, tracked
G157 John Deere M8 Trailer, armoured, tank towed
G158 Pressed Steel Car Co M12 Carriage, motor, 155mm gun
G158 Pressed Steel Car Co M30, T14 Carrier, cargo, 155mm gun
G159 Diamomd T 980/981 12 ton M20 Truck, 6x4,tank transporter, M19
Frauhauf, et al, 45 ton M9 Trailer, 12 wheel
G160 Pacific Car & Foundry TR1 12 ton M26 Truck/tractor, armoured rcovery
M26A1 Truck/tractor, unarmoured, 12v
M26A2 Truck/tractor, unarmoured, 24v
All three of the above part of Tank Transporter, M25
G161 Weaver M22 Truck, lift, trailer, bomb
G162 IHC 13 ton M5 Tractor, high speed, gun, s/top
M5A1 Tractor, high speed, gun, h/top
M5A2 Tractor, gun, hor springs, s/top
M5A3 Tractor, gun, hor springs, h/top
G163 Buick, M18, T70 Carriage, motor, 76mm gun, Hellcat
G164 Buick M39 Vehicle, utility, armoured, (M18 chassis)
G166 Ford T16 Carrier, universal, GAUT16
G167 FMC et al LVT, Mk2 Landing vehicle, tracked, unarmoured
G168 FMC LVT, Mk2(A)2 Landing vehicle, tracked, armoured
G169 Baldwin Locomotive T2 Vehicle, tank recovery
G170 Ford M10A1 Carriage, motor, 3" gun
G172 Thew Shovel M2 Crane, truck mounted, with:
Gramm M16 Trailer, 2 wheel, clamshell
G173 M12, T8 Tank, trainer, gunnery, 75mm
G176 Ford, GBK M20 Armoured car, 6x6, open top
G177 Fontaine 5 ton T15 Trailer, 4 wheel, ammunition
G178 GMC 2 ton M23 Truck, 6x6, instument bench
G179 Studebaker M29 Carrier, cargo, Weasel, (rear engine)
M29C Carrier cargo, Weasel, amphibious
G182 Kits, standard hardware & shop supplies
G184 Allis-Chalmers 38 ton M6 Tractor, high speed, artillery
G185 M32 Vehicle, tank recovery
G186 M31 Vehicle, tank recovery
G187 M32 Vehicle, tank recovery
G188 M31 Vehicle, tank recovery
G194 Allis-Chalmers M7 Tractor, snow
G199 M7B1 Carriage, motor, 105mm howitzer
G200 Cadillac M24 Tank, light, Chaffee
M19 Carriage, motor, twin 40mm gun, Duster
G204 M4A3 Tank, medium, 75mm gun
G205 M4A3 Tank, medium, 76mm gun
G207 M4A1 Tank, medium, 76mm gun
G208 FMC LVT Landing vehicle, tracked
G209 FMC LVT, Mk 4 Landing vehicle, tracked
G210 Fisher-GMC M36, T71 Carriage, motor, 90 mm gun (see G233)
G213 Oneida, et al 4 ton M21 Trailer, 2- wheel, ammunition
G214 FMC LVT(A)4, (A)5 Landing vehicle, tracked
G216 Utility, 8ton M23 Trailer, 4-wheel, ammunition
G221 Brill, et al 2 ton M13, M14, M22 Trailer, 4 wheel, director
G221 Frauhauf, et al 2 ton M18 Trailer, 4-wheell, generator
G226 Detroit Arsenal (Chrysler)) M26,M26A1,M45 Tank, 90mm, Pershing
G227 GMC CCKW-353, ST6 2 ton Truck, 6x6, shop van
G228 M1 Bulldoozer, tank mounting
G229 2 ton M31 Truck, 6x6, Signal Corps, general repair
M7 Truck, 6x6, Small arms repair
G232 M40 Carriage, motor, 155mm gun
M43 Carriage, motor, 8-inch howitzer
G233 M36B1 Carriage, motor, 90mm gun
G234 2 ton M32 Truck, 6x6, tire repair
Krieger 1 ton M25 Trailer, 2-wheel, tire repair
G235 2 ton M30 Truck, 6x6, Signal Corps, general repair
G236 M44 Carriage, motor, 155m howitzer
G237 M36B2 Carriage, motor, 90mm gun
G245 T46E1 Carrier, cargo, amphibious
G246 M3 Tank bulldozer
G247 M2 Tank bulldozer
G248 M19A1 Carriage twin 40mm gun
G249 All winterization equipment
G250 All fording equipment
G251 Cadillac M41 Tank, light, 76mm gun,
G252 Allis-chalmers M8A1 Tractor, high speed, with bulldozer
G253 M42? Gun, 40mm, twin, self propelled
G254 T48 Tank, 90mm gun
G255 T42 Tank, 90mm gun
G256 T43 Tank, 120mm gun
G257 T99 Carriage, motor, howitzer, 155mm
G258 T98E1 Carriage, motor, howitzer, 105mm
G259 T97 Carriage, motor, gun,155mm
G260 T18E1 Vehicle armoured infantry, full track
G261 T106 Carriage, motor, 8" howitzer
G262 M47 Tank, medium, 90mm,gun
G263 T17 Tank, trainer, gunnery, 76mm
G264 T18 Tank, trainer, gunnery, 90mm
G265 M4 Bulldozer, tank mounting
G266 T8E4 Bulldozer, tractor mounting
G268 M249 Truck, 4x4, gun lifting, heavy
G269 T39E1 Vehicle engineer, armoured
G270 T44 Tractor, cargo
G271 T4E1 Wrecker, full track, high speed
G272 T6 Wrecker, full track, high speed
G273 T44 Tractor, cargo
G274 T51 Vehicle, tank recovery, heavy
G275 M3E1 Bulldozer, tank mounting
G276 T16 Bulldozer, tank mounting
G277 FMC LVTA6,LVT5, Landing Vehicle, tracked
G278 T18E1 Bulldozer, tank mounting
G279 T194 Howitzer, 155mm, self propelled
G280 T59 Vehicle armoured, infantry, full track
G281 T74 Vehicle tank recovery
G392 Cadillac Gage, V100 M706 Armoured car, 4x4, Commando
G501 GMC DUKW-353 2 ton Truck, 6x6, amphibian
G502 Dodge T214 3/4 ton Truck, 4x4 ,weapons carrier
WC51 Truck, 4x4, weapons carrier
WC52 Truck, 4x4, weapons carrier with winch
WC53 4x4, Carryall
WC54 4x4, Ambulance
WC64 4x4, Ambulance, KD
WC56 Truck, 4x4, command reconnaissance
WC57 Truck, 4x4, command reconnaissance with winch
WC58 Truck 4x4,command reconnaissance with radio
WC59 Truck, 4x4,Telephone maintenance
WC61 1 ton Truck 6x6, weapons carrier
G503 Willys, Ford, MB, GPW 1/4 ton Truck, 4x4, command reconnaissance
G504 Ford, GPA 1/4 ton Truck, 4x4, amphibious
G505 Dodge WC15 1 ton Truck, 4x4
G506 Chevrolet G-4100/-7100 1 ton Truck, 4x4,
G507 Dodge WC62/631 1 ton Truck, 6x6, personnel & cargo
G508 GMC CCKW-353 3 ton Truck, 6x6, cargo
G509 Diamond T 4 ton Truck, 6x6, cargo
G510 Autocar U7144T 4-5 ton Truck, tractor, COE
G511 Autocar U8144T 5-6 ton Truck, COE
G512 Corbitt 50SD6 6 ton Truck, 6x6, prime mover
G513 Federal 94x43A,-C 4-5 ton Truck, 4x4, tractor
G514 White G666 6 ton Truck, 6x6, cargo
G517 AJ Miller, et al K19 1 ton Trailer, mobile communication
G518 Ben Hur, et al 1 ton Trailer, cargo, 2-wheel
G519 Bicycle, all types
G520 Chevrolet BG1503 4x2, Carrier, personnel
G521 Plymouth P9/P11 4x2, Carrier, personnel, light, 5-pass
G522 Ford 2GA-73C 4x2, Carrier, personnel, light, 5-pass
G523 Harley-Davidson WLA/WLC Motorcycle, solo
ELA Motorcycle, with sidecar
G524 Indian 640B Motorcycle, solo
G340 Motorcycle with sidecar
G525 Highway 6 ton Semi-trailer, 2-wheel
G526 White G666 6 ton Truck, cargo, 6x6
G527 Ben Hur, et al 1 ton Trailer, 2-wheel, water tank, 250 gall
G528 Mack NR 10 ton Truck, 6x4, cargo
G529 Various 1/4 ton Trailer, 2-wheel, cargo/telephone splicer
G530 Black Diamond T118,-A,-B 3 ton Semi-trailer, 2-wheel
G531 FWD HAR-1 4 ton Truck, 4x4, cargo
G532 Mack NO2,3,6,7 7 ton Truck, 6x6, prime mover
G533 Mack EH 5 ton Truck, 4x2, Cargo
G534 Carter 6 ton Semitrailer, 2-wheel
G535 Mack NM1,3,5,6 6 ton Truck, 6x6, cargo, with winch
G539 Federal 2G 2 ton Truck, 4x2, dump
3G 2 ton Truck, 4x2, telephone maint
G540 Ford G8T 1 ton Truck & bus, 4x2
G541 International K7 2 ton Truck, 4x2, cargo
G542 International KR11 5 ton Truck, 4x2, dump
G547 Brockway B666 6 ton Truck, 6x6, bridge erector
G548 Cadillac-Superior 62 V8 3/4 ton Ambulance, 4-litter, metropolitan
G549 Packard-Henney 4294HDA 3/4 ton Ambulance, 4-litter, metropolitan
G552 Amph Car Corp XAC-2 1/2 ton Truck, 4x4, amphibian, Aqua Cheetah
G553 GMC AFKX 1-3 ton Truck, 4x4, Ordnance maintenance
G554 Diamond T G614 3 ton Truck, 4x2, cargo, dump, tel maint
G555 Federal 5 ton Truck, 4x2, dump
G556 Corbett, et al 8 ton Truck, 6x4, tractor
G559 Gerstenslager W-8120 6 ton Semitrailer, shoe repair
G580 Gramm, et al 6 ton Semitrailer, comb animal & cargo
G584 Gramm 6 ton Semitrailer, laundry
G585 Harley-Davidson XA Motorcycle, solo
G588 Utility 6 ton Semitrailer, textile repair
G591 Rivers Body, et al 6 ton Semitrailer, clothing repair
G592 Watson Automotive 6 ton Semitrailer, mobile records
G596 Highway Trailer, et al 7 ton Semitrailer, cargo
G600 Truck Engineering, et al 7 ton Semitrailer, low platform
G605 Bantam, Willys 1/4 ton Trailer, cargo, amhibious
Chevrolet G-7100 1 ton Truck, 4x2, stake and platform
Bartlett, et al 1 ton Trailer, van, public address, (chaplain)
G606 Schult, et al 1 ton Trailer, van, 2-horse
G611 Simplex G-A-1 Motor driven airborne bicycle, Servicycle
G612 Chevrolet G1 Truck, 4x2
G613 Dodge 1 ton Truck, 4x2
G614 Amph Car Corp XAC-2 Truck, amphibian, Aqua Cheetah
G615 Ford 1/2 ton Truck, 4x2, pickup
G616 Chevrolet 3/4 ton Truck, 4x2
G617 Chevrolet 1 ton Truck, 4x2
G618 Dodge 1 ton Truck, 4x2
G620 GMC 1 ton Truck, 4x4
G621 Dodge 1 ton Truck, 4x2
G622 Ford GTB 1 ton Truck, 4x2, cargo
G623 GMC 2 ton Truck, 4x2, cargo
G624 Mack 2 ton Truck, 4x2, cargo
G626 Autocar U2044 2 ton Truck, 4x4, oil service
U4144T 2 ton Truck, 4x4, tractor
G627 GMC AFKX-502 2 ton Truck, 4x4, tractor
G628 GMC AFWX-354 2 ton Truck, 6x4, searchlight
G629 Mack NB1 2 ton Truck, 6x4, searchlight
G630 Studebaker US6 2-5 ton Truck, 6x6 and 6x4
G631 Indian G841 Motorcycle, solo
G632 GMC AFX=804 4 ton Truck, 4x4, van
G635 Autocar U5044 5 ton Truck, 4x4, tractor, COE
G638 FWD SU-COE 5-6 ton Truck, 4x4
G639 Mack NJU1 5-6 ton Truck, 4x4, tractor, COE
G642 White G1064 10 ton Truck, 6x4, cargo, (various bodies)
G643 Hug 50-6 7 ton Truck, cargo
G644 Packard G2003 Car, 4x2, medium sedan
G647 GMC 5 ton Truck, 4x2, dump
G648 Federal, Reo 604/28x6 20 ton Truck,6x4,tractor.1600 gal fuel tanker
G649 FWD CU 5-6 ton Truck, 4x4, timber hauler, COE
G650 Mack 70, Class 750 Truck, 4x2, fire, powered pumper
G651 International M-5H-6 2 ton Truck, 6x6
G652 Mack LMSW-23/-53 5 ton Truck, 6x4, wrecker
G671 International H-542-9 5 ton M425 Truck, 4x2, tractor
H-542-11 5 ton M426 Truck, 4x2, tractor
G672 Cushman G39 Package delivery motor scooter
G674 Indian 741B Motorcycle, solo
G692 Biederman, Reo, et al F1 7 ton Truck, 6x6, tractor
C2 Wrecker
P1 Crane
G680 Harley-Davidson Motorcycle with sidecar
G683 Cushman Airborne motor scooter, Autoglide
G684 Coleman G55A 4 ton Truck, 4x4, shovel, crane, Quic-kway
G688 International K5/KS5 1 ton Bus, 4x2, 29 passenger
G690 Brockway B666 6 ton Truck, 6x6, bridge erector
G692 Biederman F1 7 ton Truck, 6x6, tractor
Federal, Reo C2 7 ton Truck, 6x6, wrecker
G731 Linn Coach & truck 1 ton M423 Ambulance, 4x2, 12-litter, Metropolitan
G740 Willys MC 1/4 ton M38 Truck, utility
G741 Dodge 3/4 ton M37 Truck, 4x4
G742 Reo 2 ton M34 Truck, 6x6
G744 Diamond T, et al 5 ton M51 Truck, 6x6, dump
M52 Truck, 6x6, tractor
M54 Truck, 6x6, cargo
M62 Truck, 6x6, wrecker
G745 Heil D2 6 ton M364 Dolly, 2-wheel, trailer converter
G746 Springfield Auto 10 ton M365 Dolly, 2-wheel, trailer converter
G747 Dunbar Kapple 1/4 ton M100 Trailer, 2-wheel
G749 GMC 2 ton M135/211 Truck, 6x6
G750 Frauhauf M127 Trailer
G754 Frauhauf 1 ton M104/106 Trailer, 2-wheel
G758 Willys MD 1/4 ton M38A1 Truck, 4x4, utility
G762 Cushman 67P Motor scooter, package delivery
G763 Indian 340B Motorcycle with sidecar
G792 Mack 10 ton M123 Truck, 6x6, tractor
Mack 10 ton M125 Truck, 6x6, cargo, front winch
G823 Willys, et al, M274 Truck, 4x4, platform, 4x4
G834 Dodge Power Wagon 1 ton M600 Truck, 4x4, for export
G838 Ford, Kaiser 1/4 ton M151 Truck, 4x4, utility, Jeep Mutt
G843 AMC 1/4 ton M422 Truck, 4x4, utility, lightweight, Mighty Mite


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(1)The cats I saw were D4's and TD9's
(2)HD10's ,TD18's , and D7's
(3) D8's . The D2's were too small to do much . Hd 10's were good for dirt work .
TD18's . were called ,tighten 18 nuts and bolts .There swing frames were always comming loose . I didn't see alot of D7's ,The D8's were the work horses .Most of them had the Le Tournal dozers on them .Thats the ones with the overhead cable to lift the dozer . It could lift about 2 ft higher then any other dozer whitch was great for pushing over trees .Alot of soldiers got killed on them as they didn't have a canopy .George
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Not according to the Directory of US ARMY "G" Numbers which I've copied here:


G126 Caterpillar, D7 M3 Tractor, crawler, heavy
Derek,

What G number was a D8 then?

D8 was classed as a Heavy, see;
www.armyvehicles.dk/caterpillard8.htm
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Derek,

What G number was a D8 then?

D8 was classed as a Heavy, see;
www.armyvehicles.dk/caterpillard8.htm
Good question Richard. As we all know during WW II the U.S. Army used D8s throughout the world, from the Alcan Highway to Australia, yet I have found no "G" number for the big Cat. The list I posted was from a non-official web-site and may therefore not be complete, but a further search has only turned up a recent NATO stock number.

Tractor, Full Tracked, Low Speed DOZER D8,TRACTOR NSN 2410010000008

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Revisiting the subject of different designs of Dozer Blade lifting here are two dozers (unknown type) the first has the more normal winch system - Le Tourneau I think
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This second is a new one to me - it's an er.. Triangular arrangement of winch superstructure
Both pictures from http://www.dogfacesoldiers.org/comba...eers/index.htm
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The second one is also a LeTourneau .The difference is that the first one is a D7 and the second one is a D4 .They have a Le Tourneau unit on the back for lifting . I have a old cat with a Le Tourneau unit on it in my collection.They were pretty crude .When they got wet they wouldnt lift a pail of water .The cone shape clutches would have to be dry to work properly .In the winter we would try to keep the unit coverd to keep the snow off of it .The biggest advantage was they could lift the blade higher than all the other dozers and the over head frame would give you some protection from falling objects george
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This second is a new one to me - it's an er.. Triangular arrangement of winch superstructure
Both pictures from http://www.dogfacesoldiers.org/comba...eers/index.htm
Thanks for the link Noel, that website had many great pictures including the destruction of the giant swastika at Nuremburg by the 120th Combat Engineers.


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Thanks fo that information George. Now here's another "different" Dozer. from the website of 117 Combat Engineers http://www.baysweb.com/117th_combat_engineers.htm. I presume that's a "tree smasher" on the front - would it be a local modification or a standard fitting?
Also the blade appears to be V shaped but I supose that could be an illusion caused by the camera angle - what do you guys think?
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Thanks fo that information George. Now here's another "different" Dozer. from the website of 117 Combat Engineers http://www.baysweb.com/117th_combat_engineers.htm. I presume that's a "tree smasher" on the front - would it be a local modification or a standard fitting?
Also the blade appears to be V shaped but I supose that could be an illusion caused by the camera angle - what do you guys think?
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Noel..Looks like it is a de-mining blade..
Once the mines are dug up..the upper blade could be lowered to trap the mine and move it ,giving some protection to the operator//..
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Thanks fo that information George. Now here's another "different" Dozer. from the website of 117 Combat Engineers http://www.baysweb.com/117th_combat_engineers.htm. I presume that's a "tree smasher" on the front - would it be a local modification or a standard fitting?
Also the blade appears to be V shaped but I supose that could be an illusion caused by the camera angle - what do you guys think?
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Noel, you're correct in identifying the attachment as for pushing over trees. The horizontal bar jutting out in front of the dozer is a dead giveaway. Observe the same type bar on the LeTourneau Tree Crusher used to clear the valley that became Williston Lake after the W.A.C. Bennet dam was built in B.C. Coincidentally, that tree crusher was built not too far from where I presently live. Must have been quite a job transporting it to MacKenzie. Further, substantial overhead protection has been provided for falling limbs and "Widow Makers". Alex is quite correct in assuming the "V" shaped blade could be used for demining as "V" shaped mine ploughs are common on modern Engineer vehicles such as Canada's DAREOD but I have only seen one such blade on a WW II vehicle. I've included a pic of a Panther with a similar blade.

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My neighbor has a D7 army cat . It has since been painted yellow over the OD paint . It has the Letournal dozer and unit on the back to lift it He would like to know the history of it . We live 100 miles from the Alaska hyway and I would guess it worked there during the war . The number on the cat is 3T 50 SP .There is a government tag on it also and a serial # that I can get .The tracks were like new but have been removed for another cat It can be rebuilt as there is alot of parts for these cats .Any help will be much appreciated George
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