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Old 05-01-16, 18:17
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HI ALL,
recently there was a thread here about the number and sizes of the grease nipples in ht e carrier. I dont find the thread. I am looking for this info, the sizes and number of thr nipples.
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Old 05-01-16, 20:12
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Tecalamite, 3/8 BSF. (british standard fine) Do check the sizes of yours.
Bellcranks on floor=4
brake bell cranks =2
Cross tube rollers =2
Do you have one on your brake pedal? (early ones just have oil hole) (not sure about grease nipple here)
Speedo drive (diff end)=1
greaseable thrust bearing? =1
Bogie wheels =8
Rear hubs =2
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Clutch release shaft =2 (in original housing) (non carrier g/box housing will be NPT)
Fan extension =1
Flare pistol bracket =1

O.K. a re editing is required; Thank you Michael R.
The bogie arms account for 4 more, (do I mention the 4 relief valves as well?)
The double bogie frame has 1 in the centre of each =2
And also 1 in each return roller pin=2
The gear change bearing has 2
If you are lucky enough to have the aerial mount, they have 2 more
Tow hitch =1

I think that is 37 so far
Some carriers have one on the brake Pedal, which makes the possible total 38.
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Old 05-01-16, 20:16
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Two more on the clutch bellhousing for the release bearing shaft.

One on the flare holster bracket to the right of the radio operator if it's a mk1 carrier. It is stricly a dummy though as the only purpose it serves is to hold the end of the grease gun hose in place during stowage. Can't help think the radio operator is going to get his battledress greasy on that one.
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Old 05-01-16, 20:49
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Hi Rob, I had forgotten about the clutch shaft ones, but will point out that those, like the thrust bearing one, are not going to be BSF, are they?
I would expect they are standard type grease nipples with what ever thread Henry Ford put in his gear box housings (NPT?)
Truth is, I have never had an original carrier g/box housing, so don't know this?

It would have made sense to have the whole vehicle greased with the same grease gun. The only options were to fit NPT threaded Tecalamites there, or a grease gun adapter.

Answers please (Waiting for Michael R to chime in with documentary evidence)

I don't have a flare pistol bkt and had forgotten about that one.
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Old 05-01-16, 21:53
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I actually have a carrier transmission on the bench right now for re-assembly, which is why I know about those two. I will pul one now and see what thread it is. However, in civil servant fashion, I merely looked in my FUC-03 manual in front of me and they are indeed listed as using two of C01UC100400 tecalimite #28 3/8 BSF fittings. Don't forget that the regular Ford transmission housing has it's own part number for this application, so in the drawings they may have specified to tap the holes to BSF. I know I have adapted regular truck transmission housings to carrier application before by adding a hole or two on the back which is not on the normal applications.


A check in the back of the manual shows this fitting in use in over 21 different sections of the manual.

There is another on the fan extension.
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Old 05-01-16, 23:05
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Well we have it covered then?

I will edit my earlier posted list so that they are all there in one place.
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Old 05-01-16, 23:24
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Lynn,

Your 1412 hr post has the complete list of grease nipples ?

Thanks a lot , that will come in handy.

Where can i find an adaptor that will fit on the nipples for my modern grease gun ?

Cheers.

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Old 05-01-16, 23:31
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Robert, you can probably buy one from an engineering supplies place that screws directly on your gun, or you can leave the chuck on your gun and fit a grease nipple in the back of the adapter.
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Old 05-01-16, 23:33
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Well we have it covered then?

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I would have to look up all the 100400s in FUC to confirm. I would think there are more than 24. When the manual lists it in 21 places, whle there will be some duplication, they are also in multiples. We'll see how time goes when I get back to the house tonight.

Robert: Ebay will have those adapters at a reasonable price. Best bet is to attch one right to the flexhose of a geasegun, rather than having the coupler pop off youre adapter averytime you pump the greasegun.

Go to ebay and enter "button grease" to see the selection of adapters along with grease fittings. Note there are small and large size fittings.
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Old 06-01-16, 00:05
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Robert, to add to Rob's good adviceI think you will need the small one. The big ones are monsters.
Go for a new fitting, because if they leak, they are a pain.
They are usually bsf threaded as is likely, your grease gun.
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Old 06-01-16, 00:25
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This side of the globe our grease guns are 1/8 NPT. So are a lot of the adapters. Lincoln 81458 is a common (albeit expensive) one, and NPT to boot.

Robert: If you google "button head coupler" you will come up with a bunch of other brands besides Lincoln. Generally, the lincoln one is $38US if in the States, around $80 in Canada, and if you only pay for the best, the same coupler is $124 from Acklands Grainger. Not sure what brand Fastenal uses, but theirs are very reasonably priced at US $20.
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Old 06-01-16, 00:41
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You could also have a look at the fold-out service chart in UC-F1. . .

The button head zerk under either rear bogie pivot arm may have been knocked off.
Fitting, Lubricator, Tecalemite #28-3/8 BSF. Part number C01UC 100400. It also has a USA cross-over number as well as a U.K. number.

There could be as many as thirty-three / thirty-four, depending on UC MK-I* or MK-II* and how they are equipped.
I.E.: tow hook has one.

The MK-I* tilting wireless antenna base has two.

Although each bogie wheel has one, there are five wheels per side on the little carriers, the single 10" return roller spindle being overlooked. The pivot pin on the underside of the rear bogie pivot pin, plus the too often ignored double bogie assemblies where they pivot on the cross tube, in addition to the secondary pivot. No wonder they are a PITA to remove.
The speed change assembly has two, one at the base of the ball and socket, the second one on the bearing support.
The steering gear box can be found with an assortment of fittings that may not be original.

The spare used to hold the lubricator on the signal pistol holster bracket is a gem!

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Old 06-01-16, 00:51
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Thanks Lynn, thanks Rob.

Michael, my fold out service chart is missing from my copy of the UC-F1.

...would you please..eh.. very please post it here or send it by email ..please again.

Gents, i am a little daft , sorry new to Carriers. I bought a Grease Gun from Canadian tire and the end works on some of the grease fittings but not all. So i need a button grease attachment says Rob . Q. What size do i need to buy so that it fits my grease gun and the nipples on the Carrier ?

Thank you for your patience.
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Old 06-01-16, 01:02
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Robert

I am assuming you have some (or all) of the original button head style grease fittings. There were two sizes: regular and large. The carrier uses regular which I see also are referred to as 5/8".

When you say your Canadian Tire grease gun works on some of the fittings, then that means someone has changed some (or all?) of your fittings over to the nipple style. In that case the Cdn tire end will work on any of them, although angles of access may require you to get some flexible coupling.

In the photo below is one with a dozen various grease nipples and one button head fitting. In the other photo is a button head fitting.
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Old 06-01-16, 01:17
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So i need a 5/8 button to fit the hose on my grease gun ?

Thanks a million Rob.

Poor Arie who began this thread. Did we answer his question ?
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I have NOS original grease fitting adapters tha allow you to use your regular grease gun to grease the Carrier button head fittings. I don't have the original Carrier part number handy: will try to post the number tomorrow. Any one interested can PM me. ....... Brian
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Was going to say you can get the original adaptor from Brian.

The part number is C01UC 105719 Nozzle grease gun fitting.
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Old 06-01-16, 08:12
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I have edited post #2 to cover all those discussed so far

Can someone please advise if the later brake pedals have a grease nipple fixed to the tube
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HI, I think I made a mistake and didnt make myself clear. It is my intantion to change the ols nipples into the modern one, and I need to know the size of the thread on the body side, not on the greaser side. I think there are at list two sizes. thanks arie
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Old 06-01-16, 16:40
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The thread is 3/8 BSF.

http://www.saeproducts.com/bsp-grease-fittings.html
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Old 06-01-16, 19:23
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Arie, see the first line of my first post.

If you are rebuilding a carrier, some BSF taps and die nuts are useful as well
The fasteners are BSF. (but not most of the ones in the Ford made assemblies)(Engine, g/box,diff.etc)
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I have edited post #2 to cover all those discussed so far

Can someone please advise if the later brake pedals have a grease nipple fixed to the tube
Not sure what is late and earlier but my carrier has the grease nipple on the tube.
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Excellent Dave!, I thought I'd seen them like that somewhere.
Another edit of post #2 coming up.
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