WANTED! Universal/Bren Gun Carrier

Tyroma · #1 27-01-10, 02:36

Hey Gang..

I am looking for a Universal Carrier project. Doesn't need to be running, or even have an engine for that matter. I am looking for one in rough (ie. inexpensive) condition. Would prefer one that has trans/bogey wheels intact.

If you know where one is sitting, please let me know. Prefer one somewhere in Ontario.

Thanks!!!

Ty

BCBlitz · #2 27-01-10, 21:09

Ty

I know of one in BC, but thats a long way off ........ It has a engine, but is missing all its upper armour

Tyroma · #3 27-01-10, 21:20

Hey...Yeah, I think that the shipping would be cost prohibitive! Thanks anyways!

Ty

maple_leaf_eh · #4 30-01-10, 04:12

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Originally Posted by Tyroma

Hey...Yeah, I think that the shipping would be cost prohibitive! Thanks anyways!

Ty

Never say never. There is a fellow from Alberta on the forum whose carrier came from Eastern Ontario ....

BCBlitz · #5 30-01-10, 23:32

As " they " say ............. nothing time and money cant fix !

trader · #6 30-08-10, 18:40

Hi

A friend of mine has a universal carrier restoration project that he may be interested in selling. It still has its original engine (not running) and lots of spare parts including a set of treads. It is located in Collingwood. I don,t know his asking price, but if you are interested I can direct you to him.
Cheers

mcafee · #7 02-09-10, 22:43

Hey Trader,

I might be interested in your friends carrier if no one else is, I have space in my garage after selling my m38a1 and m100.

Tom

Wpns 421 · #8 03-09-10, 02:22

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Originally Posted by mcafee

Hey Trader,

I might be interested in your friends carrier if no one else is, I have space in my garage after selling my m38a1 and m100.

Tom

Tom Did you get the OK from the future Mom, If you put anything in that garage except her car you might be sleeping with your new toy Gilles

Phill · #9 03-09-10, 12:19

Trader,
I also might be interested in your friends carrier. Phil

trader · #10 03-09-10, 18:28

I,m just on my way to take some pictures of it now, hope to have them posted later. Stay tuned! Cheers.

trader · #11 03-09-10, 21:40

OK, here she is. I know very little about these carriers, old cars are more to my interest, but a friend who has been restoring universal carriers for over 20 years suggests that this one may be very rare. We believe it to be an early model Mark 1 carrier, possibly british, with several inconsistencies from the Canadian production versions including: A brass shifting gate, a slot in the engine cover to accomodate a dipstick for the fuel tank (earlier models didn,t have fuel gauges) and spring mounts on the rear axle housing, also not found on later models. The armour plating is all intact and uncut and it still has the original flathead V8 engine. I,m attaching a few photos, so if anyone has any information to offer, it would be greatly appreciated. If anyone would like more pictures, please email me at stevebeer@rogers.com .
Cheers

Phill · #12 03-09-10, 23:22

I'm definitely interested, e-mailed you. Phil

rob love · #13 04-09-10, 03:59

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Originally Posted by trader

OK, here she is. I know very little about these carriers, old cars are more to my interest, but a friend who has been restoring universal carriers for over 20 years suggests that this one may be very rare. We believe it to be an early model Mark 1 carrier, possibly british, with several inconsistencies from the Canadian production versions including: A brass shifting gate, a slot in the engine cover to accomodate a dipstick for the fuel tank (earlier models didn,t have fuel gauges) and spring mounts on the rear axle housing, also not found on later models. The armour plating is all intact and uncut and it still has the original flathead V8 engine. I,m attaching a few photos, so if anyone has any information to offer, it would be greatly appreciated. If anyone would like more pictures, please email me at stevebeer@rogers.com .
Cheers

Mine also has the brass shifter plate and the spring mounts on the rear axle. These were on the first thousand or so carriers. The dipstick for the fuel tanks was standard on all the mk1 carriers (perhaps about 16,000 to 18,000). It was only the mark 2 carriers that had the fuel gage. The one you show also has the conduit for the wiring to the horn. This was also dropped reasonably early in production.

That is a very nice and restoreable carrier hull. Many on this site have started with far less.

Jordan Baker · #14 04-09-10, 04:12

Is it just me, or does it have a bellows type aircleaner hanging under the engine cover deck?

trader · #15 04-09-10, 13:03

The engine cover has a plate on it giving instructions on how to purge the aircleaner of dirt prior to starting the engine. Would that be the bellows type of aircleaner you mentioned? I,m attaching a photo of the tag.
Cheers

RichardT10829 · #16 04-09-10, 13:19

dont quote me but i beleive the British rear bogey assemblies were fabricated steel rather than cast and the engine rails are slightly different, if this helps ?

I wish i had had something like this as a starting point......mine was terrible...not the worst on here but far from the best

Lynn Eades · #17 05-09-10, 03:52

That is the bellows air filter. (made of felt)

trader · #18 05-09-10, 14:22

By the way, the picture I attached is of an embossed number found on the lower left hull behind the tensioner bogey. Does anyone know how to decode these to possibly find out the carriers history? Thanks

RichardT10829 · #19 05-09-10, 16:55

looks like a part number TL10256 ? dont have my parts book to hand. you will find that mose parts will start with CTL or TL.

RichardT10829 · #20 05-09-10, 19:54

just had a look in the FUC-03 lists and cannot find a trace of that number. is the photo of the cast part of the front idler ? any more pics ?

trader · #21 05-09-10, 20:58

Sorry, thats the best pic I have. The number is on the extreme lower left portion of the hull. It would normally be completely hidden behind the tensioner bogey.

Lynn Eades · #22 05-09-10, 22:07

It is indeed the part number for the left hand front bogie bracket. the casting is damaged, and should read "TL13256" This is the early one with the sprung loaded ratchet arm. The book says "not to be demanded. Order part CO1UC-105092"
Richard, I believe SOME of the Bogie bracket assemblies were fabricated. Most were cast. The bed rails in a British carrier are made from channel steel (sharp outer corners), and the Canadian ones are channel formed by rolling, leaving the outer corners "rounded"

RichardT10829 · #23 06-09-10, 11:38

Thanks Lynn i knew you would know this

khern2365 · #24 02-12-10, 01:51

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Originally Posted by Tyroma

Hey Gang..

I am looking for a Universal Carrier project. Doesn't need to be running, or even have an engine for that matter. I am looking for one in rough (ie. inexpensive) condition. Would prefer one that has trans/bogey wheels intact.

If you know where one is sitting, please let me know. Prefer one somewhere in Ontario.

Thanks!!!

Ty

Hey Ty, are you still looking for a Universal Carrier Project? I have one but it is around the Great Lakes area in the US. It is a T-16 Universal with all drive train and motor. It has been in a shed for several years and was running when put in shed. It could be shipped to you. Price is $10,000 plus shipping,

Respectfully, Knox Herndon ><>
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lssah2025 · #25 02-12-10, 14:04

Knox, I would be interested, do you have pics of the beast in question?

Lance