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Old 15-06-10, 11:50
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I have tried to put together a definitive list, with the kind assistance of colleagues on MLU, of wartime Bedford models.

BEDFORD WARTIME CIVILIAN & MILITARY MODELS

NORMAL BONNET:
K 30-cwt Commercial
MS 2-ton Short Commercial
ML 2-ton Long Commercial
ML Code 54 Ambulance (1940)
ML Code 55 Tanker (1940)
OS 3-ton Short Commercial
OL 3-ton Long Commercial
OS Code 40 5-ton Short Commercial
OL Code 40 5-ton Long Commercial
OB 26-seat bus

MW 15-CWT WD TYPE (‘SERVICE’) TRUCK (FLAT FRONT):
MWC WATER; MWD G/S; MWG A/A; MWR RADIO; [MWV Van adaptation of MWR] MWT Anti-tank Portee; MWX inflatable decoy

OX 30-CWT WD TYPE (‘SERVICE’) LORRY (FLAT FRONT):
[OXA Armoured truck]; OXC; OXD

OX BEDFORD-SCAMMELL WD TYPE (‘SERVICE’) & CIVILIAN 6-TON 4X2-2 TRACTOR LORRY (FLAT FRONT): OXC

OY 3-TON LORRY WD TYPE ‘SERVICE’) LORRY (FLAT FRONT):
OYC; OYD G/S Cargo body

OWS 5-TON SHORT WHEELBASE ‘CIVILIAN’ MODEL’ LORRY (FLAT FRONT):
OWS; OWST Tipper, military front.

OWL 5-TON LONG WHEELBASE ‘CIVILIAN’ LORRY (FLAT FRONT):
OWL; OWLE Flat platform; OWLD Dropside

OWB 26/32-SEATER WD TYPE (‘SERVICE’) & CIVILIAN BUS (NORMAL BONNET):
OWB (1941-on)

QL 3-TON 4-WHEEL DRIVE LORRY
QLB 3-ton Gun Tractor and 3-ton Light A.A. Unit
QLC 3-ton chassis cab for bodying by outside builders.
QLD 3-ton G/S lorry
QLR 3-ton Wireless, Command or Cypher vehicle
QLC variant, perhaps better known as QLS (conversion of the QLC chassis cab to a 6-ton semi-trailer tractor)
QLT 3-ton Troop Carrier
QLW 3-ton Tipper

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Old 28-06-10, 11:25
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I have amended the listing after studying parts manuals etc. for the official designations.

Can anyone please confirm which models these mobile canteens are? I assume OXC.
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Old 29-06-10, 10:21
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Old 29-06-10, 20:57
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Can anyone please confirm which models these mobile canteens are? I assume OXC.
These vehicles are of part of one of the Queen's Messenger Convoy "Food Flying Squads". I've recorded two of these vehicles as being OXD/15055 (40cwt Food Store Van, CCA665) & OXD/15031 (40 cwt Food Store Van, CCA685) and posted more details about these convoys on HMVF, here: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread...ens-messengers

I've would love to hear any other details people may have.
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Old 29-06-10, 22:30
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The shots taken by COMMERCIAL MOTOR show several vehicles, brand new, and no regos. All were Bedfords except for a Vix-Ant tanker.
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Old 29-06-10, 23:28
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Hi David,

Do you have a copy of the Vauxhall Motors pamphlet dated Jan. 1944? It is titled Bedford Vehicles and Vauxhall Cars, Supplied to Government Contracts or MOWT Release.

There are sketches against each entry, a Food Flying Squad canteen is listed as; OXC, 30cwt, 4x2, Mobile Canteen.........body by Spurling

There are no MW, OX, OY, QL models as such, they are family designations, each model has the full three letter reference, here is a list;
MWC water tanker
MWD GS truck
MWG GS truck with gun mountings
MWR fitted for wireless
MWT Anti Tank tractor
MWV GS van
OXD GS lorry
OXC Bedford-Scammell 6ton semi trailer lorry ( with sides)
OXC " " " " " flat platfom lorry
OXC mobile canteen
OXC Bedford-Scammell semi trailer petrol tanker 1200 and 2000 gallon types
OXC " " " " dropside lorry
OXC with Tasker semi trailer
OXC semi trailer bus "Bevin Bus"
OXC semi trailer Tasker low loading "Queen Mary"
OXC semi trailer with torpedo carrying attachment
OYC petrol tanker
OYD GS lorry
QLB Light AA tractor
QLC petrol tanker
QLD GS lorry
QLT troop carrying
QLR fitted for wireless
QLC 6 ton semi trailer
OWST 5 ton swb tipper (cvilian model to MOWT licence)
OWLE 5 ton flat platform (civilain model to MOWT licence)
OWLD 5 ton dropside (civilian model to MOWT licence)
OWB 32 seater bus ( civilian model to MOWT licence

and a few more.............

Never seen any offical reference to QLC semi trailer as a QLS though.
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Old 30-06-10, 08:22
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Thanks for that!

In the Ian Allan Archives I found reference to the Bedford-Scammell articulated bus..special permission had been given to them running in service.

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Old 17-07-10, 12:14
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MWG GS truck with gun mountings
Pics of (what I believe is) a Bedford MWG.

HTH,
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Old 17-07-10, 23:36
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MWD GS truck
And a nice shot of the classic early open cabbed MWD, plus one of the later closed cab version.
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Old 17-07-10, 23:49
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MWC water tanker
Wartime shot of a MWC - one of Les' pics, right?
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Old 18-07-10, 00:18
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Bedford MW with 20-mm Polsten gun

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Old 29-06-10, 13:17
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David, a few photos to accompany your listings
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Old 29-06-10, 14:58
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Thanks Les. I am trying to prove that OX chassis were available to authorised users such as NAAFI, Churchy Army, Salvation Army, et al as well as the OW models. However I cannot tell the difference between an OWS and an OXC!
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Thanks Les. I am trying to prove that OX chassis were available to authorised users such as NAAFI, Churchy Army, Salvation Army, et al as well as the OW models. However I cannot tell the difference between an OWS and an OXC!
While there are certainly photographs of Bedford trucks in use by these organizations I'd like to see, if it exists the connection to chassis being available to authorized users. Here's a photo from circa mid 1943. I have no idea why it is uploading inverted...

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Is this better
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A QL Bedford in Melbourne of all places 1946

Title Truck and semi-trailer with logs each approximately 2 tons in weight in a loading yard at Melbourne, Victoria. Extension of good roads and the increasing demands of commercial undertakings have resulted in great development of road transport in Australia in recent years [photographic image]. 1 photographic negative: b&w, acetate
Date range 1946 - 1946
Series/Control symbol A1200, L211
Item ID 11962717
Item location Canberra
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Old 30-06-10, 15:51
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Factory shot of the 30cwt oxd general service
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Old 30-06-10, 16:08
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Lets see if i can get this one right first time, the OXC 30 cwt canteen seen during the handing over of the keys to the Church Army
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